first draft of scitch

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:04 am

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This track uses a dubsub2 for bass, an FM4 put through 'da chopper' for the synth lead, my favourite, the cello sample, and a sampled double bass. Also two homemade drum multi-samples, one panned hard left and right, the other centred. Plus a few other little effects here and there.

Just a first draft . . . not sure about the ending (bit of an anti-climax ?) also have a version with loads of quotes from Key Largo, but wasn't sure whether the music was fine on its own.

All comments technical and musical very much appreciated.

Cheers kidZ

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:06 pm

Great Track!!!
The cello was beautiful and moarnful. The drum track just blew me away. So much variation and interest throughout - not just the sounds, but the rhythmic changes as well. The whole track has this "off centre" feel that I really love.
I enjoyed the strange mix of acoustic and FM instruments.
Nothing really constructive to say - loved it and thanks for uploading it. Wouldn't mind hearing the version with the Key Largo samples - just out of curiosity to see how you used them

zezappa · Post by **zezappa** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:33 pm

I need to hear this louder tomorrow (4.30AM now) but a very good work no doubt, a strong D&Bass approach and some more.
OT - may I ask you why do you write where you from in portuguese?

cheers manZ

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:48 am

Cheers people !

zezappa - its also the Spanish name for my town, and, well, seeing as this is such an international forum and all !

(i.e. no good reason other than that I speak a bit of spanish and thought it sounded nice !)

Post by **Neil B** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:05 am

Excellent - I didn't know which rhythm to focus on at first but after a few listens it works really well as a whole entity.
Love the cello/bass samples.
The ending? Nothing wrong with it but try one extra note (slightly higher than the last note)- sorry I'm not near my keyboard to find the note!

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:26 am

Thanks Neil.

Do you mean another note for the FM4 at the very end ? Might be a good idea - round it all off a bit . . .

Will give it a go,

Ta,

Will.

BTW just uploaded the 'Key Largo' version here
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AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:55 am

BTW just uploaded the 'Key Largo' version

On my way

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:13 am

Johnny Rocko the Ganster . Will you ever get enough, will ya Rocko? - Well I never have!

Those lines work really well.
I also like the repeat of "How far away was that? - oh a few miles!"
Really well stitched together, a keeper for me.

In answer to the question you posed in your original post as to whether or not the music stands up without the Key Largo samples, I'd say yes - no problems there. E flat is a cool note to end on if you ask me

zezappa · Post by **zezappa** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:15 am

Thanks MR. for your explanation, sometimes I forget that "Nuestros Hermanos" spell many words like portuguese. Cool anyway...
About the song, I was right, I like it a lot and good samples indeed. About "technical" (but just concerning my taste) it seems that those kind of stroke keys amongst 3:00«»4:00 go into much high frequency, perhaps lowering 1 octave would give it less stride.
But what know I to talk about...?

Have fun

zezappa · Post by **zezappa** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:15 am

Thanks MR. for your explanation, sometimes I forget that "Nuestros Hermanos" spell many words like portuguese. Cool anyway...
About the song, I was right, I like it a lot and good samples indeed. About "technical" (but just concerning my taste) it seems that those kind of stroke keys amongst 3:00«»4:00 go into much high frequency, perhaps lowering 1 octave would give it less stride.
But what know I to talk about...?

Have fun

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:14 am

blgrace - glad you liked the samples version. But which one will you keep ? My only worry about the rocco is that while it fits quite well together sample for sample, the 'story-line' as it were is a bit thin ! I don't introduce the fact that they are in this stormy place etc . . .

zezappa - do you mean the FM4 keys ? I've been having quite a lot of difficulty with the mix for the following reason. When I play stuff through my hi fi, or my headphones direct from the computer, the mix sounds alright, but when I play it on my flat-mate's sony the high frequencies, as you say, come out way too strong, and there's not enough mid frequency. Anyone else getting strange frequencies popping up ?

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:53 pm

I kept both versions. The instrumental will be a great study. The vocal version already tells the full story. I just picked out the lines I really liked and commented -they were the lines that left an impression on me.

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:42 am

I really like this. The Cello give first some peace and harmonie to this track, then it underlines and raises the strangeness of this song.
The balance between the peace and strange shuffled sounds is amazing. I have no problems with the sound, everything is well balanced on my monitors.
This track can play in a movie or computer game, when somebody is doing a really strange thing, skin someones body or the bad guy is closing in and he looks terrible but sure to do the bad.

Very good.

borg · Post by **borg** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:33 pm

my 666th post goes out to you, will!

again a great track, much more like tapdances again, which i still like the most. what should i say more? nothing really, except that i like the version without the vocal samples much better. for me the words don't work. it's too attached to the original i think. there's no 'universal truth' or statement or elusive idea. but that's just my opinion. in tapdances for instance, it worked really great. very much as intense as mogwai's 'punk rock' or air's 'virgin suicides' (because part of the movie)...

you do know that your music is adventurous enough on its own, don't you?

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:27 am

Cheers Chris, cheers Borg ( and thanks for your devilish post . . . aaaaggghhh !)

Borg - I think I will use the non-vocal version (gearing up for my first ever demo cd - SCARY !!!) Maybe you're right in that the words (though I do like them, and the film) don't have enough 'weight' somehow. Anyway I'll probably listen to both many times before sending anything off !

Ta for the kind responses !