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Post by astroman »

On 2004-02-15 02:42, sharcsound wrote:
...All devices are pin-compatible and completely code-compatible with all prior SHARC Processors. ...
this doesn't include timing and adressing (your quote includes a 'different memory' hint) :razz:
But it eases significantly the design of new boards.
The memory stuff must be redesigned anyway to get rid of PCI overflows, so a 'recycle' doesn't make much sense imho.

A NOAH and a screwdriver might offer some revelation. NOAH masterverbs without PCI :wink:

cheers, Tom
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Yes, 10 times or close to, more powerful cards would change the game, the next Luna would no longer be the poor man's entry ! :razz:

I hope CWA will launch swap deals with a fee of course so that we could all restart on " new power " because I dare to bet an another old shirt that those new chips will support new instructions and lot that won't be backward compatible ( like SSE, SSE2 on CPUs ).Furthermore new hungry devices could be developed at last because so far the devs were restraining themselves not to miss the " lower segment ".

The new developers on those future cards may lack the optimizations strains so some unnecessary DSP hungry devices in perspective ...

I wonder how much time nowadays developers spend on making a device " fit in the box " maybe they could've created an another device in the meantime, more freedom, more output, more hungry devices.

If Rhino or Absynth2 were ported to those future cards, I wouldn't be suprised if only the happy owners of Pulsar 3 could benefit of some low polyphony and native users could go : " ah ! those new CWA cards just suck, they can barely handle one instance " indeed but they sound a little different ! :wink:

In the same time Rhino, Absynth, Virsyn stuff, ConcreteFX, RGC audio, Vaz Technology ... etc are one guy's job so respect and hat off for them !!!!!!

I really wonder who will be the new devs, I don't expect fat cats, I don't think pure hardcore code people will join because they 'll want their stuff totally theirs without any limitation though the SDK opening may help A LOT !

That's why I bet again an another old shirt ( have plenty, easy ) for the Reaktor / Synthedit kind of people to be allured.

And you know Frank, you're ahead of NI : many people have begged for a SDK for Reaktor to develop new modules and silence so far from NI !! :wink:

This year could be the focus year on CWA ( recovery also ) openess for devs ; next year major focus with new boards, IMHO afloat and sailing fast for the next 5 years and more !! :grin:

I hope but don't expect too much also a MAJOR & VITAL refreshment on your site that looks like an old Trabant dumped in a pond.

I have very seldomly seen such a discrepancy between the quality of a product and the way it's exposed ! :eek:

Look at the competitors :
http://www.tcelectronic.com/
http://www.mackie.com/products/uad1/index.html

Especially tc ...

Since it's not obviously your domain and since you're into salutary openess I would launch also a third party redesign of website : kind of a Linux community to bring a pool of good web designers and marketers around.

As a start : just gather the questions asked and problems solved here and on your forums to build an *exhaustive* and up to date Faq and troubleshooting and other questions answered database !!

Many hours spend in this collecting task, but how much many more mails you won't have to answer !!!!!!!!!!!!

That brings to an another point about marketing : just bypass the shops ! *if* you can give **all** the infos and *representative* sound examples, a potential customers should just order by the net.

For sounds examples, I would go for presets mainly : uniques files of only leads, pads, fx ... etc 5 to 10 seconds per preset,don't even bother about fades to optimize the file size ; the goal being to show what the synth or FX is capable of : what you hear is what you get when you use preset x, no tricks !!

Demos tracks, how many of you like them ? a pure presets hearing on the other hand that reflects all the capabilities ??

If I were rather bold, I would encode them in Ogg Vorbis : at 4 quality setting, same file size as 128 kbits mp3 and better quality than VBR 128 to 192 kbits mp3s with smaller file size ! :wink:

Because saying : " just trust us, in real it will sounds way better than this 128 kbits mp3 file " won't make it if I'am a potential customer and can't try the devices.

Concerning the USB2 / firewire and PCI-X and PCI Express debate ... how much bandwidth the future cards will need to work without hiccups ?

If more DSP cards are to enter the arena, maybe could CWA have an outside box like http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bi ... s/Capybara

I have upgraded on a AMD 2.6 Ghz last summer and I intend to last some years on that setup.

As to prices, when I bought my Pulsar 2 four years ago, it costs nearly twice more.

I would keep the cards as low priced as posssible to get more customers in but beef up the basic synths ( Prisma, Lightwave and Co ) that don't compete very well with up to date VSTi's.

More to say but not so bad for a Sunday ! ;-
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Post by dellai »

I was out of inspiration and was thinking about CWA :smile:

http://212.108.27.70/cwa.jpg
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Post by petal »

Thats a nice design - I especially liked the "go pro" picture!

Thomas :smile:
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I like it too dellai
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Post by astroman »

I agree with Petal - it's a nice design
and that's all about it :wink:
what is that stuff on the 4 colored patches all about ?
strange words, never heard - but nothing to attract my attention...
2 screens - every studio has - hmmm what are they doing with those funny progs

but: you hid your hookline like an easteregg in the middle of the screen - THAT's not pro

yeah, I know it's simple to critize - but we want the best, don't we ?
forget about (REALLY!) what we all know about Creamware - we'll make our way through whatever crappy site to get our stuff :wink:

The 'image' has to capture the 'accidently' or lead by a search engine visitors, who probably don't even know what a DSP is - and will leave as fast as they came if flooded with a lot of tech stuff.
One has to start somewhere and as such I much appreciate the design :smile:

cheers, Tom
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Post by powerpulsarian »

I wonder when we will hear back from CW Frank. I know I am impatient - but I am very interested in knowing what he thinks about all this discussion and possibilities.
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Post by Spirit »

With the number of threads and huge number of posts it'd be good to try to distill it down to the main points in a single post....
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Post by alfonso »

On 2004-02-20 10:26, powerpulsarian wrote:
I wonder when we will hear back from CW Frank. I know I am impatient - but I am very interested in knowing what he thinks about all this discussion and possibilities.
With the reduced staff they must be working like hell..., maybe the chef cuts onions too!
:lol:
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Post by Shayne White »

On 2004-02-16 13:11, dellai wrote:
I was out of inspiration and was thinking about CWA :smile:

http://212.108.27.70/cwa.jpg
Wow, I'm impressed! That's WAY better than CreamWare's current site!!

My only complaint is that the red color of the "C" logo and the yellow color of the news items clash a bit with the surrounding colors...if the colors were changed to be a bit more pleasant it would look awesome.

I like the fact you used hardware pictures in the products boxes...that gives people an immediate idea of what CreamWare does.

Have you contacted them regarding changing their site? :smile:

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I agree that is a good front page.
I also agree some colors don't go well.
but it looks pretty good.
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Post by virtualstudio »

the picture is a cw picture http://www.creamware.de/en/products/sfp ... efault.asp and imho the go pro logo is a bit to much.
the rest of the page looks good to me!
I do think the offical CW site can do with a bit of rearrangement but I also think there is a lot of information already to be found. compared to for example digidesign there is much more to see and hear on the CW site
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