Bye-Bye Big Mixer

h4nc0 · Post by **h4nc0** » Sun Aug 26, 2001 5:15 am

yes, and with logic live input monitoring, you can use DX/VST/Logic (aka native) plugins on those live inputs! It's quite amazing.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:19 am

This is from the the first post in this thread:

"You might want to setup a def.pro and def.all so you only have to do this whole setup once. "
I know what a ".pro" is, but I'm at a loss as to what a ".all" might be.

Someone light my lantern please.
Paul

[ This Message was edited by: paulrmartin on 2001-10-03 05:19 ]

Ora · Post by **Ora** » Wed Oct 03, 2001 6:25 am

the .all extension is Cubase's native format - logic's is .lso (i believe) so just replace the .all in the text w/ .lso & your good to go!

Merry Music Making!

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed Oct 03, 2001 6:38 am

Thanks for the info Ora!

krip · Post by **krip** » Thu Oct 04, 2001 12:40 am

How does one enable "multirecord" in the first place??

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Thu Oct 04, 2001 4:47 am

In Cubase: options>multirecord>active>merge
or something like that.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 11:48 am

I find that turning on ASIO inputs in Cubase uses a lot of CPU power. Pulsar on the other hand doesn't put any strain on the CPU.

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 6:26 pm

On 2001-10-22 12:48, braincell wrote:
I find that turning on ASIO inputs in Cubase uses a lot of CPU power. Pulsar on the other hand doesn't put any strain on the CPU.

yep. but mixing on pulsar puts strain on the dsps. trade off either way (unless you got scope or something).

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:36 am

true, I'm lucky enough to have 11 DSPs. I have 4 milliseconds delay in Pulsar 3.0 but 25 in Cubase.

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:50 pm

you should be able to pull off lower latency than that! I run at 7ms most of the time, and 13 if I push the system more. And 4ms in Pulsar? isn't it realtime? I thought it was sub 3ms or something . . .

freddan · Post by **freddan** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 3:36 am

Don't you have to have the same latency in both Pulsar and Cubase?

On 2001-10-25 08:36, braincell wrote:
true, I'm lucky enough to have 11 DSPs. I have 4 milliseconds delay in Pulsar 3.0 but 25 in Cubase.
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algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:55 am

freddan wrote:
Don't you have to have the same latency in both Pulsar and Cubase?

No. Pulsar devices run around 1-2ms latency; roughly equivalent to hardware synths/samplers. VSTi latency is dependent upon your ULLI setting; ie. 25, 13, 7 ms

ohmelas · Post by **ohmelas** » Fri Nov 02, 2001 5:52 am

I HAD TO DUMP SONAR FOR JUST THIS PURPOSE. I WENT TO CUBASE JUST SO THAT I COULD SWITCH OVER TO XTC AND GET REAL DSP USAGE OUT OF MY SYSTEM. LATENCY IN MIX ISN'T BAD. ITS ONLY A REAL BOTHER WHEN TRACKING.

I USE DIGITAL MIXERS ON THE FRONT END AND AJUST ACCORDINGLY. THEY AUTOMATE COMPELTELY THE CUBASE ENVIRONMENT.

I DON'T HAVE SAMPLE ACCURATE SYNC EVERYTHING BUT CAN KEEP EVERYTHING PRETTY PHASE ACCURATE.

FUNNY THING ABOUT DIGITAL IS THAT THE PHASE THAT EXISTS IN SOLID STATE IS NOW MEASUREABLE WITH DIGITAL AND WE MAKE MORE OF A STINK ABOUT IT!

REGARDS ALL NICE DISCUSSION.

HOWARD

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:16 am

we hear you fine.

you do not need to yell!

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:17 pm

On 2001-10-04 05:47, algorhythm wrote:
In Cubase: options>multirecord>active>merge
or something like that.

Multi track recording in Cubase: do not take 'merge' for that but use 'Input Split'.
Assign different input on Cubase channels, record enable the tracks.
During recording, I disable ASIO2 monitoring too.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:29 pm

...
I only use the BixMixer of the Pulsar. Right now I'm recording the movements I make with the BixMixer in Cakewalk. Works fine with me.

Anyone outthere who can convince me in using Cubase/VST with their mixing environment instead?
...

CWPA is my favorite for midi. I liked the CAL files a lot, these are simple user-programs like the 'Logical Edit' in Cubase. Also remote control seemed more convenient in CWPA.

If I didn't use so many VST fx (which are way faster than Dx and consume less cpu) and Rewire, I'd stick to CWPA. Btw, what audio drivers do you use in Cakewalk?

a t

m i c

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 9:21 pm

On 2001-11-06 20:17, atomic wrote:
On 2001-10-04 05:47, algorhythm wrote:
In Cubase: options>multirecord>active>merge
or something like that.

Multi track recording in Cubase: do not take 'merge' for that but use 'Input Split'.
Assign different input on Cubase channels, record enable the tracks.
During recording, I disable ASIO2 monitoring too.

actually, I think we are both wrong! I was talking about MIDI. what one really needs to do is activate the ASIO channels on the "VST Inputs" page. . .

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 9:23 pm

Cakewalk Sucks!

no Sequencer war here though. Me likes VST FX too. Preach on At

mic

[ This Message was edited by: algorhythm on 2001-11-06 21:24 ]

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Thu May 23, 2002 6:09 am

On 2001-08-26 06:15, h4nc0 wrote:
yes, and with logic live input monitoring, you can use DX/VST/Logic (aka native) plugins on those live inputs! It's quite amazing.

I'm trying to set up my sts-5000 with logic's mixer. Mabe I'm stoopid but I can't get the DX/VST/Logic plugins to work.

This is what i do:
1.First i set up all my sts outputs in the EASI inputs + EASI output to sound out.
2.Second I set all the audio to "armed" (REC) and Rec the midi channels I've choosen.

I get sound out and everything, but when I start setting up an effect with DX/VST/Logic plugins, I get no effect out of it.
I tried to set the effects on the main output and this works! I can't understand what's wrong.... Has anybody got a clu??

djevo · Post by **djevo** » Sat May 25, 2002 2:14 am

first an ultimate neewbie question: what is automation?

Algorythm >>: would you also 'advice' to don't use the Pulsar mixer that comes with the ProPack?

[ This Message was edited by: djevo on 2002-05-25 03:14 ]