Using RMX 160 on drums

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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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astroman wrote:regarding content I'd vote kick him off immediately...
but the stuff is so bizarre I must keep reading on :D

feedback as pictured in the Solaris is done on synth for ages, it's so obvious noone ever mentions it
it's NOT due to a supposedly secret character

cheers, Tom
Yes Tom.
You cant stop.
Our company here that whe started and still is working
was helping NASA to send signals out in Space since 60 years back in time,
and we dont give a shit what you say.
We are personal friends with the guy who made Solaris.
Thats why I tell this.
Whatever you want people to do they already started to use the STM 2448 mixer here,
on drums and they dont like the artists you mentioned.
I am sure you can survive without attacking also the Israel involved Companie .
Our Companie here was working together with friends of them from 60 years back.
Thats when working with NASA
If we was also involved in a beta project using RME as a preamp to Scope.
You can say anything they already helpt us with new things used also in TDM.
So if you think you are big , we think not.
The gear used over RME is more important than your intentions with pretenders.
We dont need your old mixer crap.
We use RME and Sonic Core as it was ment and it is the only application that can do this,
Decca stile specially the drum feedback setup.
So if you have been doing wrong with your mixers for 25 or more years.
We dont care, its still wrong.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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astroman wrote: feedback as pictured in the Solaris is done on synth for ages, it's so obvious noone ever mentions it
it's NOT due to a supposedly secret character
No Tom,
You're wrong. The Illuminati have been keeping the secret technic from you .
They feed you with Marshall BS technics and old mixers .
This way they create an inharmonious society and keep you subjugated with full frequency recordings and decent musicianship.
It is time to end the lie .
We have been working with NASA to try and beam feedback rays into everyone's house in an attempt to break this tyranny .
Now we can achieve this with our friends from RME and an Irish guy we know .
Listen to just the panorated parts of our mixes (which are not mixes as that would imply evil old technic) ,
you will hear a message that will instruct you to storm the Marshall building and hold them to ransom until
they admit they have been part of the hiding feedback conpiracy and denounce George Martin .
Only then can we move forward .
Boor.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:
astroman wrote: feedback as pictured in the Solaris is done on synth for ages, it's so obvious noone ever mentions it
it's NOT due to a supposedly secret character
No Tom,
You're wrong. The Illuminati have been keeping the secret technic from you .
They feed you with Marshall BS technics and old mixers .
This way they create an inharmonious society and keep you subjugated with full frequency recordings and decent musicianship.
It is time to end the lie .
We have been working with NASA to try and beam feedback rays into everyone's house in an attempt to break this tyranny .
Now we can achieve this with our friends from RME and an Irish guy we know .
Listen to just the panorated parts of our mixes (which are not mixes as that would imply evil old technic) ,
you will hear a message that will instruct you to storm the Marshall building and hold them to ransom until
they admit they have been part of the hiding feedback conpiracy and denounce George Martin .
Only then can we move forward .
Boor.
You are like that Syrian president .
You cant just stop with following after people.
Do you think Assad will win his stupid war also.
Good luck with your pretending
I did not hear that band pretenders much.
It was no good.
beta tester
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote: You are like that Syrian president .
You cant just stop with following after people.
Do you think Assad will win his stupid war also.
Good luck with your pretending
I did not hear that band pretenders much.
It was no good.
beta tester
Bear
What are you even talking about ?
We were responding to Tom not you .
We never liked the pretenders, too much frequencies and good musicianship .
Stop following us about like world war 2 here.
Boor
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:
niceboy wrote: You are like that Syrian president .
You cant just stop with following after people.
Do you think Assad will win his stupid war also.
Good luck with your pretending
I did not hear that band pretenders much.
It was no good.
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Bear
What are you even talking about ?
We were responding to Tom not you .
We never liked the pretenders, too much frequencies and good musicianship .
Stop following us about like world war 2 here.
Boor
Ok sorry we are helping another band here now,
with the drums
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote:...
and we dont give a shit what you say.
We are personal friends with the guy who made Solaris.
Thats why I tell this.
well, your style of bragging with aquaintances is embarassing at best...
but read what John wrote about this astro-idiot himself :D
... and they dont like the artists you mentioned.
...
We dont need your old mixer crap. ...
I never mentioned any 'artists' and don't do mixers either :lol:

cheers, Tom
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:...Listen to just the panorated parts of our mixes (which are not mixes as that would imply evil old technic) ,
you will hear a message that will instruct you to storm the Marshall building and hold them to ransom until
they admit they have been part of the hiding feedback conpiracy and denounce George Martin .
Only then can we move forward . ...
wtf :o ROTFL :D

great sequel, Tom
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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astroman wrote:
Mr Arkadin wrote:...Listen to just the panorated parts of our mixes (which are not mixes as that would imply evil old technic) ,
you will hear a message that will instruct you to storm the Marshall building and hold them to ransom until
they admit they have been part of the hiding feedback conpiracy and denounce George Martin .
Only then can we move forward . ...
wtf :o ROTFL :D

great sequel, Tom
Maybe but I dont have time with you.
Ok
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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com'on Niceboy, admit it, you are not a mixer at all eh?
That (experienced) band would have thrown you out already a month ago.
Or someone is using recorded tracks to test something and you are allowed to play with the knobs for some reason?
Are you just messing things up while playing with bx?
Are you just a helping hand of somebody?
Supervisor trashcan or so?
Maybe someone is testing a new software plugin used as in a mixer's feedback channel, and you're allowed to hang around?
Is it a setup by you, or maybe you're whispered in your ear to make some noise about something?
That feedback thing is just nonsense, is it?
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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feed back is the essence of a resonant filter

the output signal is negatively feed back so that its feed back on its self to produce oscilation

it was perfected on the mini Moog

which john Bowen was one of the people behind it

and why he put it in the Solaris it gives bite to filters and bark when no res is used

and the guitar feed back was made by accident by the Beatles when john Lennon went to close to a speaker while playing

and got the screech feed back he liked it so they set up mics by the speakers to record the effect

the rest is history its well documented by his engineers

its very easy to do in modular

i use it in some of my designs to great effect its also great for doing it on chorus lines when you cascade a chorus upto 4 /8 then from the last chorus you feed back to the first its great for that analog string type sound

im beta testing a sample player module that allows multisampling and im doing a string synth with it and i will do a feed back circuit on it

to show what i know how feed back is done
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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I've received multiple reports on this thread. I haven't read the whole mess, but I've seen enough.
I've sent a ban-warning to niceboy- it's time to ease down on the insults, threats, swearing, and conspiracies.

Meanwhile, can we please keep in mind that not everyone speaks perfect english, and be a little more forgiving of poor language choices, and more importantly - try to be a little more mutually respectful?

-John
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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jhulk wrote:feed back is the essence of a resonant filter

the output signal is negatively feed back so that its feed back on its self to produce oscilation

it was perfected on the mini Moog

which john Bowen was one of the people behind it

and why he put it in the Solaris it gives bite to filters and bark when no res is used

and the guitar feed back was made by accident by the Beatles when john Lennon went to close to a speaker while playing

and got the screech feed back he liked it so they set up mics by the speakers to record the effect

the rest is history its well documented by his engineers

its very easy to do in modular

i use it in some of my designs to great effect its also great for doing it on chorus lines when you cascade a chorus upto 4 /8 then from the last chorus you feed back to the first its great for that analog string type sound

im beta testing a sample player module that allows multisampling and im doing a string synth with it and i will do a feed back circuit on it

to show what i know how feed back is done
Ok thats great and you are the right person to help out here then
Dont judge our Soundexamples.
It was impossible to change the drums set up it order to give Snare example.
Then not a word about that please
Gary said that this thread was about RMX 160.
I am going to continue in Xite with a thread about the STM mixers,
welcome to respond.
This about helping new Scope users , and here they already bought a lot of old PCI cards.
Also the new boxes used for testing of PCI cards before at Sonic Core.
There is new connectors for Express card connection for them so,
it might be usefull for you to help.
Sonic Core has already contacted me about the economic part of it.
Here Its about two plugins thats no more in Scope.
That we use here bx V2 and SPL Transient Designer.
See you in Xited Forum if you want then.
Have no time with this thread anymore.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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John Cooper wrote:I've received multiple reports on this thread. I haven't read the whole mess, but I've seen enough.
I've sent a ban-warning to niceboy- it's time to ease down on the insults, threats, swearing, and conspiracies.

Meanwhile, can we please keep in mind that not everyone speaks perfect english, and be a little more forgiving of poor language choices, and more importantly - try to be a little more mutually respectful?

-John
Yes and some people defended me.
Because I am right,
I have been contacted
by Sonic Core,
because they are interested in what we do,
I stop here and make a new thread about it,
because theese people started attacking me,
and still dont understand that the first problem is solved
long ago.
Dante solved that and Gary.
It was first about loading .
Its My fault also
Read in the beginning
I make reports also here
The research will continue in
Xited
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Just to make things clear:
Niceboy is talking about a simple feedback line? I mean, send a signal to an aux and feed it into the mixer and send it out again via the same aux? I might not understand what is being done here correctly, but that is just plain and simple amplification and nothing amazing in any way - and too much will give you and endless feed - There is nothing spectacular about that - if the volume fader on a mixer is used, you will avoid the potential endless feedback and delay of going into the mixer and out again (if the stm mixer even introduce delay... i dont remember).
Or am i totally misunderstanding things here?
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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the19thbear wrote:Just to make things clear:
Niceboy is talking about a simple feedback line? I mean, send a signal to an aux and feed it into the mixer and send it out again via the same aux? I might not understand what is being done here correctly, but that is just plain and simple amplification and nothing amazing in any way - and too much will give you and endless feed - There is nothing spectacular about that - if the volume fader on a mixer is used, you will avoid the potential endless feedback and delay of going into the mixer and out again (if the stm mixer even introduce delay... i dont remember).
Or am i totally misunderstanding things here?
No. No .No
I make a thread on Xite now.
It will be called.
Feedback
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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the19thbear wrote:Just to make things clear:
Niceboy is talking about a simple feedback line? ...
Or am i totally misunderstanding things here?
you understand it perfectly well, though niceboy will deny that immediately...
the only difference to the plain-stupid-full-throttle approach is that he's using it in homeopathic doses
on dozens of points in the routing, with a little filter here and some dynamic there etc etc
he's absolutely right that Scope is the best system in the world to do this
what other environement let's you even access the signal path on such a level of detail ? ;)

he either has a severe damage on his ears (may happen with loud rock music)
or believes the phase interactions in those mixes are way cool... dunno

at least the system acts absolutely predictable and every mixing engineer would avoid such nonsense
there's not a minor difference presented in the soundcloud examples
everyone exept the mighty master agrees about the boxy, dull and just strange sound
not all of our ears can have failed at the same moment in time... :D

there's also no such thing as attacks going on
for what would you attack someone insisting that this is a great sound ?
I still consider it a hoax...

cheers, Tom
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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enough!
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