Using RMX 160 on drums

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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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jhulk wrote:just had a listen sounds like its coming from a paper muffled bag

cant here any organ at all

the timings sloppy

the guitars dont even follow the drums they play there own timing

its dull and lifeless

learn to mix obviously you dont know the basics

as a famous song i would say

rip it up and start again

as no amount of mastering is going to make it sound right

you get it right at the recording stage first

then you dont need to master
Let me save niceboy some time:

"We don't need you advices .
We don't care what you think , go back to your Cubase.
We have many friends (well Eric from DAS anyway) who think like us .
You don't understand this technic, which is why you don't know how to listen to it.
We just putted in 53 organs and 23 reverbs and panorated them 45 and it still sounds like mush: this is how pro I am.
You are not professional.
Go back to your Marshall technic that is a lie by the British on proper feedback technic ."
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Nice boy, you're not being nice. :o

Tons of people here with tons of experience that believe it or not totally understand your 'technique', so please stop the condescending us with the ridiculous Cubase argument. It's not working, and only makes you sound stupid.

And stop telling me to just turn it up like its a live recording. I've been doing this for 35 years.

Your mixes are UNLISTENABLE at high volume!

Your are compressing your compression, causing a huge noise floor issue that is tricking your master mix EQ into thinking there is a big roll-off in all the highs and lows.

Next time try mixing at LOW volume so that you don't damage your hearing.

And PLEASE try to accept people's 'feedback' and stop talking down to us like you're superior.

So far in an effort to prove the validity or even superiority of using 'feedback', you've ended up proving otherwise-that either the technique is not working, or you are not using the technique properly.

And no, I won't even start on the musicianship, since it is apparently irrelevant at this point. :roll:

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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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jhulk wrote:just had a listen sounds like its coming from a paper muffled bag

cant here any organ at all

the timings sloppy

the guitars dont even follow the drums they play there own timing

its dull and lifeless

learn to mix obviously you dont know the basics

as a famous song i would say

rip it up and start again

as no amount of mastering is going to make it sound right

you get it right at the recording stage first

then you dont need to master
Why do you listen then if you obviosly dont hear verry good
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Image

:lol:
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Fluxpod wrote:Image

:lol:
Ah, so that's how it's done. Makes sense now.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote: Why do you listen then if you obviosly dont hear verry good
Seriously?

What the hell are you monitoring on and how loud, because at any sensible volume, half-decent monitoring system and non-abused ears you cannot hear that you mixes sounds woolly, distant, lack lows & highs and any kind of power or definition?
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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maybe Eric can help him?
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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hubird wrote:maybe Eric can help him?
You need help.
Everything you say is wrong.
This thread is not about mixing.
Everything thats heard is usefull.
Not how it sounds.
We do advanced negative feedback amplification,
and discussions about mixing good or bad is stupid.
Three heavy Metal Guitars is not even going to be heard,
in online amplification in any other way,
when using only bx for mid side operations.
So stupid discussions about sounding good or bad,
is not welcome here.
Now we are going to use the 6 free Channels in the new 2448 mixer,
to make more feedback on the Snare.
People who just want to drink alcohol and be stupid,
is strongly adviced to stay away.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote: This thread is not about mixing.
Everything thats heard is usefull.
Not how it sounds.
We do advanced negative feedback amplification,
and discussions about mixing good or bad is stupid.
[...]
So stupid discussions about sounding good or bad,
is not welcome here.
So all your examples are not there to display how great feedback technique actually sounds? So why post them?

"Here is our superior feedback technic, but it actually doesn't matter if it sounds good or bad ." What insanity is this?

You're so wrong it's unbelievable. ALL that matters is how it sounds - NOT how you get there.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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siriusbliss wrote:Nice boy, you're not being nice. :o

Tons of people here with tons of experience that believe it or not totally understand your 'technique', so please stop the condescending us with the ridiculous Cubase argument. It's not working, and only makes you sound stupid.

And stop telling me to just turn it up like its a live recording. I've been doing this for 35 years.

Your mixes are UNLISTENABLE at high volume!

Your are compressing your compression, causing a huge noise floor issue that is tricking your master mix EQ into thinking there is a big roll-off in all the highs and lows.

Next time try mixing at LOW volume so that you don't damage your hearing.

And PLEASE try to accept people's 'feedback' and stop talking down to us like you're superior.

So far in an effort to prove the validity or even superiority of using 'feedback', you've ended up proving otherwise-that either the technique is not working, or you are not using the technique properly.

And no, I won't even start on the musicianship, since it is apparently irrelevant at this point. :roll:

G
I dont need advice from you.
You can ask questions ,but you obviosly did not know how to use bx V2,
as I showed here ,and if you dont understand ,
that there are some people including Brainworx as a company ,
that is going to come back to Scope ,
or maybe Digital Audio Software ,
will be payed from some of the people involved with us and RME HDSPe MADI,
to actually produce the bx in Scope again.
I am just provning that its impossible to get heard on sides doing what we do,
without using bxV2, thats already gone from Scope .
Its not good to use your opinions against me,
because you obviosly did not know how to use the bxV2
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Its best to just Report him.I will do from now on.If john reads this thread or any other of Failboy he probably smacks him off.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:
niceboy wrote: This thread is not about mixing.
Everything thats heard is usefull.
Not how it sounds.
We do advanced negative feedback amplification,
and discussions about mixing good or bad is stupid.
[...]
So stupid discussions about sounding good or bad,
is not welcome here.
So all your examples are not there to display how great feedback technique actually sounds? So why post them?

"Here is our superior feedback technic, but it actually doesn't matter if it sounds good or bad ." What insanity is this?

You're so wrong it's unbelievable. ALL that matters is how it sounds - NOT how you get there.
If you can hear more reverb on Snare in the backround that this thread is about,
RMX 160 and we will use 6 free channels in drum mixer for even more feedback on,
Snare.
Thats not tonight.
Snare channels is no set on 60% .
When Snare is getting stronger ,the Verb is getting stronger,
because we take the Verb signal from Snare Aux.
To make critics about other things is not about this thread.
Using RMX 160 on drums.
We use it only on Snare .
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Fluxpod wrote:Its best to just Report him.I will do from now on.If john reads this thread or any other of Failboy he probably smacks him off.
I know you think you are big.
I think you are a loser.
Just stay away as you said you schould.
You dont keep your word.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote: If you can hear more reverb on Snare in the backround that this thread is about,
Well I can't separate the reverb from any of the other mush going on. How plainly do you want me to say this? It is impossible to discern anything because the mixes have no frequencies other than a wall of mids which makes it impossible to judge anything, if indeed that is what you want us to do. Maybe Eric put you up to winding us up because now it just looks like a tragic ongoing joke.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:
niceboy wrote: If you can hear more reverb on Snare in the backround that this thread is about,
Well I can't separate the reverb from any of the other mush going on. How plainly do you want me to say this? It is impossible to discern anything because the mixes have no frequencies other than a wall of mids which makes it impossible to judge anything, if indeed that is what you want us to do. Maybe Eric put you up to winding us up because now it just looks like a tragic ongoing joke.
If you cant hear ,and dont understand ,
because you showed you use an analog technic that we didn't use,
we stopped to use thouse guitarist also,
they thought they play good.
We know they did not,
and therefore I ask you to back off a little bit.
We can hear ,so ask your ears why you don't hear reverb on Snare
There is an Irish Guy here that maybe will find out in America,
how to find out more with our Professor in Soundtechnic.
He said something about Bear attack.
We dont have time for your technic that was considered bad,
more than 40 years ago.
Let some people ask questions now.
Bear
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote: We can hear ,so ask your ears why you don't hear reverb on Snare
If it was just me then maybe you'd have a point. I have protected my ears since my 20s with proper moulded musician's earplugs. My hearing is very good for my age, better than all my friends who went to gigs and clubs with no protection.

Until you own this forum I will respond as and when I like, within the rules of planet z.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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[quote="siriusbliss"]Nice boy, you're not being nice. :o

Tons of people here with tons of experience that believe it or not totally understand your 'technique', so please stop the condescending us with the ridiculous Cubase argument. It's not working, and only makes you sound stupid.

And stop telling me to just turn it up like its a live recording. I've been doing this for 35 years.

Your mixes are UNLISTENABLE at high volume!

Your are compressing your compression, causing a huge noise floor issue that is tricking your master mix EQ into thinking there is a big roll-off in all the highs and lows.

Next time try mixing at LOW volume so that you don't damage your hearing.

And PLEASE try to accept people's 'feedback' and stop talking down to us like you're superior.

So far in an effort to prove the validity or even superiority of using 'feedback', you've ended up proving otherwise-that either the technique is not working, or you are not using the technique properly.

And no, I won't even start on the musicianship, since it is apparently irrelevant at this point. :roll:

G[/quote
Stop telling lies.
We did not do anything that you said no extra compression
We actually also have too low level on drums here,
thats by purpose and you think you are going to win this.
No way we are not cats , we already have won this game.
If you dont understand that we are not doing mixing.
We are doing advanced negative feedback amplification,
and you dont want to listen to our examples.
Just do nt listen to our examples then.
Its not for you then because its obvious that you dont understand,
that we already have leading Companie in TDM thats working together with our Companie,
and thats using RME HDSPe MADI as preamp to Scope.
They already have made plugins that we are testing here.
They are specially made for what we do with feedback in Scope .
So you can keep on with your stupid attacks forever if you want.
We are not doing mixing
only examples for thouse who understand.
Your way of mixing is useless.
If we just made it work stable with our very large load.
That is more interesting than your attacks on Quick fix examples.
For one more time let some serious students take over instead.
You where not able to make the bx working in the right way.
You can of course ask question ,
because maybe noone did this setup before maybe.
Your attacks looks too much like the second world war.
They Irish Guy said it here, so let someone else take over.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:
niceboy wrote: We can hear ,so ask your ears why you don't hear reverb on Snare
If it was just me then maybe you'd have a point. I have protected my ears since my 20s with proper moulded musician's earplugs. My hearing is very good for my age, better than all my friends who went to gigs and clubs with no protection.

Until you own this forum I will respond as and when I like, within the rules of planet z.
Yes but now it looks like you are following after us,
and since we are a Companie we strongly advice you to stop following after us.
We are now contacting our lawyer about this Cat action on this forum not only by you.
Its the same people.
We have contracts with companies involved here , so you might have use for my advice.
Following after and attacking.
We are not intersted in any of your questions now.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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niceboy wrote: and since we are a Companie we strongly advice you to stop following after us.
We are now contacting our lawyer about this Cat action on this forum not only by you.
Please do - I await their letter.
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

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Mr Arkadin wrote:
niceboy wrote: and since we are a Companie we strongly advice you to stop following after us.
We are now contacting our lawyer about this Cat action on this forum not only by you.
Please do - I await their letter.
Its not working like that.
You might be blocked here,
as someone thats with really bad reputation here,
mentioned here that I would be because I clearified
that someone was using bx in the wrong way.
Thats like Cats.
We are helping here in backround to have bx back ,
or having a new plugin for mastering doing the same thing.
Thats why your attitude is so wrong.
Thats what this thread also is about.
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