non violence

eliam · Post by **eliam** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:43 pm

And btw I never said it is a good thing to be at war inside with your own feelings and let it build until it explodes. Is it so hard to just stop putting words in my mouth that I never said? I'd appreciate it if you try to avoid that.

OF COURSE emotions must not be stored up inside, otherwise they won't be solved at all! But still one has a choice as to what to feed or not and the responsibility to manage unresolved issues without trying to harm other people.

Let's get real: we are free beings, and we can choose (or not) to vent our own self-generated emotional charge and direct it into agression toward other parts of life. It IS VERY challenging to take the responsibility for our own anger and resentment, and to clean up our own mess without putting the blame on Bob or the president or other people's faults... It's a tough path. It's the only way to:
A)clean up our own problems
B)be happy and serene at last, and
C)stop the wars and hunger and various problems which seem unrelated in appearence.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:16 pm

eliam wrote:The wolves' tale is excellent and so true that indeed a 5 years old won't have any problem to fully understand it!

True, and probably the reason you like it.
If you're an adult you learn to accept who you are not pretend you are something you're not. Do you understand this or should I draw you a picture.

eliam wrote: Then maybe you'll understand that you spit in the face of people who care about your well-being and the well-being of every being. I think your black emotional clouds prevent you to see this right now and you truly make yourself miserable and I think it's unfortunate.

Good luck with your life, I wish you well you know, you can throw rocks at me all you please, I'll keep the same discourse until my last breath!

Love your neighbours, love your nation, love your enemies! Then you stop being at war inside and feed the good wolf!

E

GFY

eliam · Post by **eliam** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:26 pm

Bingo -I asked the moderator to ban you.

If anyone else can't tolerate this obnoxious foul mouthed clown in this fine forum I suggest you do the same.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:29 pm

Where is your "compassion and love" now you stupid moron? What happened, you decided to "feed the bad wolf"?

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:36 am

siriusbliss wrote:
BingoTheClowno wrote:Because I want to!
Bingo the Hate-o.

Make sure your 'choice' is not actually a decision based on circumstance. There IS a difference IMO.

Greg

the cause of hate is fear.....

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:39 am

Me$$iah wrote:No .... dont love your enemies....
They are your enemies.... hate you enemies with a passion ...

If you love your enemies, it makes you weak.. And its all well to talk about love, but I ask how can you possibly really know love unless you also know hate.

What is silence, without noise, or peace without war etc.

So NO.... stop the hippy crap and learn to live with hate, instead of stifling it, alowing it to boil up, hidde, under the surface. This can only cause emotional problems. Let free you anger, resentment and hate. Hate is good. Without hate nothing would ever chenge, its hate that drives progress, if everyone loved everything all the time, then whats the point in trying to make anything better.

Damn

Hate you enemies. Love you dear ones

Have you not read the first post ?

There is no need in hating them, only if you are too fearfull to act. Then you can use hate for them to make sure they do not cause you, or others around you, violence.

Its about responding in kind. While always keeping in mind the consequences of your actions.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:40 am

BingoTheClowno wrote:Where is your "compassion and love" now you stupid moron? What happened, you decided to "feed the bad wolf"?

We are responding to your violent behaviour.

siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:32 am

BingoTheClowno wrote:
eliam wrote:The wolves' tale is excellent and so true that indeed a 5 years old won't have any problem to fully understand it!
True, and probably the reason you like it.
If you're an adult you learn to accept who you are not pretend you are something you're not. Do you understand this or should I draw you a picture.

eliam wrote: Then maybe you'll understand that you spit in the face of people who care about your well-being and the well-being of every being. I think your black emotional clouds prevent you to see this right now and you truly make yourself miserable and I think it's unfortunate.

Good luck with your life, I wish you well you know, you can throw rocks at me all you please, I'll keep the same discourse until my last breath!

Love your neighbours, love your nation, love your enemies! Then you stop being at war inside and feed the good wolf!

E
GFY

Clowno, I was looking forward to you enlightening us and painting us lesser mortals a picture.

So DO IT!

Please, contribute to the discourse - in a thoughtful manner - otherwise you're just ripping yourself off by not making sense so that other people can understand your point.

Greg

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:48 am

stardust wrote:fear creates hate, yes and also pain creates hate.

I wonder what pain can be created via internet.

From the book mentioned in the first post:

Ajita wrote: Violence is disturbance, a breach. Violence causes pain, physically, emotionally and/or
mentally. Violence can be committed against anything.
What is “anything”?
In the end everything is energy. It moves/appears in the quality of a vibration.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:18 pm

mmm... surely it's not about 'what is anything', but 'what is violence'?

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:30 pm

<~Shroomz~> wrote:mmm... surely it's not about 'what is anything', but 'what is violence'?

huh ? What exactly do you mean ?

Violence can be commited to anything.... I just copy paste that text from the book, including picture.

I included that "anything" part because we where talking about things which could be caused over the internet. which are the more subtle things of our being

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:02 pm

Well, where exactly does a line get drawn?

'I woudn't kill a fly'... yeah righty ho.
'I woudn't kill another human being'... yeah righty ho.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:35 pm

<~Shroomz~> wrote:Well, where exactly does a line get drawn?

you draw the line. non violence is about getting out of situations unharmed.on both sides. this means responding in kind....

its like waves canceling each other out!

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:25 pm

Bingo posts almost exclusively in the off-topic forums.
These being off-topic, I try to avoid excessive moderation.

However, Bingo, your attitude is certainly disrupting these here pleasantries. Please ask yourself why you are here and what's your point. If your purpose is purely to be inflammatory and insulting, t hen please find another forum in which to do so!

I'm hoping not to have say anything further on the subject!
-John