Global Warming

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:22 pm

i live close enough to bakersfield....

the earth is definitely warm these days, no doubt about it.

of course, it's been so warm that those icecaps have melted several times since humans have existed and in between(never completely though), there have been ice ages, all without automobiles. during those wheather fluctuations, species have died out and human populations have risen and fallen.

we may be effecting and even exasperating the current weather trends, but we're not causing it.

the sun also goes through periods of activity and inactivity. currently it's at the most active state yet recorded...

hang on folks, we're all just along for the ride on this one....

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BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:19 pm

On 2006-07-28 16:22, garyb wrote:
we may be effecting and even exasperating the current weather trends, but we're not causing it.

And the proof is: ????

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:05 pm

When the Russians tested their supposed 50 megatonne Nuke, they apparently blew a massive hole in the atmosphere. Lots of other holes in the atmosphere have been caused by humans. I can't see for one moment that blowing holes in the atmosphere all over the planet by whatever means doesn't constitute as humans causing weather change through atmospheric balance destruction.

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:52 pm

Having said that, I'm warming to the idea that Gloabal warming is linked to the fact that the North pole is becoming the South pole. The planet's gravitational force is in the process of 'flipping', which it would seem is not a good thing for survival ... erm, of life.

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Post by **garyb** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:50 pm

On 2006-07-28 17:19, BingoTheClowno wrote:
On 2006-07-28 16:22, garyb wrote:
we may be effecting and even exasperating the current weather trends, but we're not causing it.

And the proof is: ????

damn.
the number of times that the earth has been much hotter than now and the number of times the earth has been colder. of course since you are so well versed in global warming you know that we are at the end of a mini ice age right? after every ice age, there's been a warm period, sometimes VERY warm(the last between 1100 and 1400 ad, before that about the time of Jesus, before that between 4-6000years ago). humans were not using petroleum and plastics and burning coal all those times. logic dictates that if there is a pattern of cold and warm periods in the earth's history, that changes in temperature must be normal and likely, even if THIS change is early, late or augmented. but we've been over this before.

people like simple explanations that fit into a nice clean box in their minds. there are too many factors involved in weather for simple explanations, that is unless you're talking about technology designed to create a specific result, like HAARP or something like that. otherwise, there's "greenhouse gases" both natural and man made, there's solar activity(which is variable), the orbit of the earth, the line of axis of the earth, changes in landmass, cosmic collisions from dust and asteroids and etc, volcanic activity and a whole lot of other factors. you can't stop earthquakes, tidal waves, ants or many other natural forces. maybe these things can be mitigated and i'm all for that. i'm not in favor of giving up my sovereignty to a world super government designed to control me while promising the undeliverable promise of keeping the ice that ALWAYS melts from melting.

here is an article from nasa that admits all i'm saying and yet still has a "be very scared" slant. http://vathena.arc.nasa.gov/curric/land ... mchng.html here's a quote that shows the problem of semantics that hides the truth:"If the trend s, the temperature could be 7 - 8° C warmer in 100 years. This is a big difference. In the last ice age it was only about 5 - 8° C cooler." they always focus on ice ages, but there are also very hot periods as well. in fact, by the graph on the page, before the last ice age was a period about 5-8° C hotter than now, so yes, it's a big difference that we are moving towards, but it is not an unusual difference as the quote might suggest to weak minded people....this is how advertising and all forms of propaganda use truth to mislead. it would be better to see that it happens, understand(no OVERSTAND) it, and get on with life a little wiser.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:21 am

On 2006-07-29 00:50, garyb wrote:
...this is how advertising and all forms of propaganda use truth to mislead. it would be better to see that it happens, understand(no OVERSTAND) it, and get on with life a little wiser.

I'd like to see that sentence in bold print

seconded, Tom

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:01 pm

Did you hear what just happened in US?

A heat wave that claimed more than 130 lives in California reached the US east coast, settling over the US capital and forcing New York City to declare a state of emergency for the first time.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed an order for city agencies "to take whatever steps necessary to protect the well-being and safety of city residents in the face of excessive heat" as the city baked under the sun.

Temperatures were expected to climb to around 100 degrees F (38 C ) in New York this week while the heat index, which takes moisture readings into account, could reach 110 F (43 C), the weather service said.

The mayor's office urged city residents to conserve on their electricity use to avoid the power outages that paralyzed a part of the borough of Queens last month for more than one week.

Bloomberg's office said any individual who "knowingly" violates the request to conserve energy -- for example by running their air conditioner while no one is at home -- could be charged with a misdemeanor.

The city said it was also setting up 383 cooling centers in seniors centers and community facilities across New York's five boroughs, and ordering its public pools to stay open into the late evening so that New Yorkers could cool off after work.

The rules apply through Friday unless the temperatures suddenly drop.

The temperature in Washington, DC was forecast to top off at 101 degrees F (38 C) on Tuesday and reach similar heights the following day, as city authorities used television announcements to urge people with respiratory problems not to venture outdoors.

In the midwestern city of Chicago, where about 800 died in a 1995 heat wave, several hundred elderly people were evacuated Monday from their buildings when an underground distribution line failed, depriving 20,000 people of electricity and air conditioning.

About 350 of the most fragile evacuees were taken to Chicago hotels, the Chicago Tribune newspaper reported, adding that the number was expected to rise.

In California, where temperatures have cooled since a historic 15-day heat wave, 136 people died from the high temperatures, according to preliminary statistics, many of them elderly.

At least three immigrants were also found dead from the heat after having crossed the border illegally from Mexico.

Let me tell you something, no human so far is adapted to bear this kind of heat. Consider the fact that human normal body temperature is 98 (37) degrees. The temperatures here in Chicago for the past 3 days almost never dropped below 87 degrees <h3>at night</h3> During day time it was unbearable. It was 99 (38) degrees three days in a row! The air was very hot and humid and the air conditioners almost seemed that could barely keep up generating cold air from the hot. I was laughing at what the local weatherman said this was: "the dog days of summer". This is far far from that. Soon we will need special suits to be able to perform regular chores outside during this kind of extreme wheather.

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Post by **garyb** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:30 pm

how hot is it in north africa or the middle east?

people can adapt to a lot of crazy conditions. and they better...it's been hotter in the past...

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:16 am

Well it's hot on the midwest which is sad, but it has made Las Vegas 10 -15 degrees cooler, so I like the way the heated areas have shifted east.

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:36 am

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid= ... 4890275721

http://www.accc.gv.at/news-science.htm

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 1546.story

http://www.globalwarming.org/

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:46 am

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:51 am

hihi!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:08 am

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0, ... n_index_19

oh great, so now we're gonna blow tons of sulfur into the atmosphere and make sure the US don't sign the kyoto protocol

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ReD_MuZe · Post by **ReD_MuZe** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:27 am

what happened with planting more trees to absorb the carbon?

thats more doable than spraying the atmosphire with stench gas...

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:37 am

They`ve been erased for better furniture and to get the home hot withou paying too much for oil and gasoline.

ReD_MuZe · Post by **ReD_MuZe** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:39 am

hemp grows much faster, and provides cleaner oil

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:12 pm

27 killed, 3 million displaced in floods in eastern India

Jakarta 2007

UK 2005

France December 2003

UK 2007
The Severn in flood under the Carrington bridge
near to St Peter The Great, Worcestershire, Great Britain

LA LA LA LA LA..

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:44 pm

Prepare for 2008
http://www.BoatsToGo.com

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:58 pm

Freak Hungary heat wave leaves 500 dead

Foster's Flood of 2007

skwawks · Post by **skwawks** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:50 am

Went to england in may ...froze my tits off ...came home in July ...Sydney was friggin freezing ,Global freezing I reckon

Any bingo it's all over now ..it's gone mainstream ,there's a prime time teev show here called carbon cops they come round and tell you how to be a goody goody global citizen ...Gary where's that gun ?