God is not great: How religion poisons everthing

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Mr. A,
Pike is serious. i'm not nessessarily.
i'm not casting aspesrsions toward anyone nessessarily either, just teasing.

that doesn't mean that these guys aren't running their program......a copy of Morals and Dogma is given to all 32nd degree scottish rite masons. since you are from england i know you know what that means, since the head of the united grand lodge of england is the duke of kent.
http://www.grandlodge-england.org/ugle/whos-who.htm

in case you want to read the textbook itself:
http://nofunclub.org/books/moralsanddogmaalbertpike.pdf
the ideas and explanations given to us are often very different than the ones kept by the elite, and many times the things the elite love are very different from what we would think even possible to believe in...
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gary, i don't disagree with you at all - in fact i think if we had a chat down the pub i might even convince you about the reptiles :wink: However, where we do diverge are on god and guns it seems. To me it seems obvious that if you had no religions to pit against each other and no guns with which to do it then the powers that be would lose their control. Of course this is simplistic - try getting everyone to agree on atheism seems a task in itself, let alone all the spin-off factions you get with Christianity et al.
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The love of guns comes from the desire to abolish the government.

Some people want to go back to the old days of the wild west with every man for himself and the only aid for the poor being meager rations of bread and soup at the church once a day. The thinking is that they don't like paying any taxes.

Some people want vigilante justice; to be the judge, jury and executioner. It's quicker that way and involves paying less taxes for the bothersome justice system.

Violence always begets more violence.
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:lol:

that's ridiculous. the founding fathers of this government point out most properly that governments always tend towards despotism. they are not to be trusted. never the less, they are neeeded. still, they can't be trusted. that's the reason for trials by jury and the right to bear arms. only an idiot thinks that the government is 100% full of good people who can be trusted to be helpful. only an idiot leaves everything in a power monger's hands....

don't worry, braincell. Lucifer will soon come to set all of us straight. he'll bring his light, reason and knowledge forth and lead us to a better age. :lol:

stop blindly repeating silly rhetoric without even thinking about what you're saying.

tell me this-if science is really making such great strides so that everyone can live longer, more stisfying lives, why are so many going crazy, mass killing, requiring phsychotropic drugs to get by, and why is EVERYbody getting cancer?

if the people in charge all love us and it's just the republicans, why didn't the democrat controlled congress begin impeachment proceedings against cheney when he stated on friday that he wasn't part of the execuutive branch and that he wasn't answerable to it or to congress, an act of treason? the vice president claimed dictotorial powers in EXACTLY the same way as palpatine in starwars or hitler himself did. if the population is unarmed and congress and the military follow along, who will stop this now that computers make survielance and control child's play? who wants to live in orwell's world or worse?

it's ok, don't worry. kellog brown and root, the subsidiary of halliburton who built death camps for the nazis has contracted out with the federal government to build internment camps in the USA. they can lock up all the dissenters so that you won't have to deal with them. they can throw in the christians for good measure... :lol:
http://www.alternet.org/rights/42458/
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/ ... i/47/17936
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I could care less about the founding fathers. They are not relevant. If they could have seen how stupid we became, I think they would have outlawed all weapons.

Watch an episode of American idol and then listen to Paul Potts:

http://talent.itv.com/
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garyb wrote:
BingoTheClowno wrote:
garyb wrote:do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do... :wink:
Yup, that's where we take our children to be sodomized.

:lol:
that fits in perfectly with this quote from Albert, i have a statue outside the US
Justice dept building, Pike:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view."
:lol:

http://www.cafepress.com/kelleyimages/806578
albert p[ike is buried here: http://www.scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html

good old Albert! he founded the KKK... :lol:
You want all atheists lynched so you can go on duping people with lies?
What's the meaning of your post? Are you fond of KKK?

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Do you notice how compassionate and loving are devout in these pictures? Not to mention their morality...
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what exactly are you trying to prove Bingo?
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I think he's trying to point out the moral values this country was built on.
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he's talking about the morals of the man who said:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view.
A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time." :lol:

he's commenting on my sarcastic remark that this man, who's statue is across from the justice building in washington d.c., who is the man who formed the scottish rite of freemasonry that the duke of kent is the u.k. head is also the man who founded the kkk.

divide and rule
order out of chaos
these are their methods.
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You seem to rather enjoy that quote. Do you agree with it?
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You rather seem to enjoy posting pictures of the KKK.
are they on your bowling league or something?
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No.
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BingoTheClowno wrote:You seem to rather enjoy that quote. Do you agree with it?
:lol: agree with it? :lol:

i'm not sure what you mean, i'm just pointing it out. Albert Pike liked it and he was one of the most powerful and influential men in the 19th and 20th centuries. i don't think you realize how pervasive this mans works are in the highest levels of private, corporate and government life of the most powerful people. almost all the high ranking western personalities are freemasons and are familiar with his work. as i pointed out, the duke of kent is the head of the U.K. chapter.....as far as whether i like it, i don't think it matters much, but personally i think he's scum. :lol:

isn't it good to know who backs your cause? :lol:
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garyb wrote:
isn't it good to know who backs your cause? :lol:
It is. Do you consider him a supporter of your cause? I'm not sure where you are going with this but it is clear you are again mischievously evading direct answers.
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man, i bet you were a killer on the playground with your "i know you are but what am i?" combacks.

he is a supporter of atheists, behind the scenes. read the quote. it has nothing to do with my opinion.

afterward, read all of what i said about it. there you'll find me calling him scum. directly.
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garyb wrote:man, i bet you were a killer on the playground with your "i know you are but what am i?" combacks.

he is a supporter of atheists, behind the scenes. read the quote. it has nothing to do with my opinion.

afterward, read all of what i said about it. there you'll find me calling him scum. directly.
So why can't you explain this from the start. Or do you expect us to read your mind?

And I don't see any evidence that supports your claim. What I understood from his words is that he attributes the origins of savagery to atheism. Maybe you can elucidate where he hinted at being a supporter of atheism.
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"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism.."

yes, he added that absolute atheism is the ultimate source of savagery(his opinion). because of the fact that atheists like mao killed upwards of 40 million, polpot a couple million and stalin had his millions(all connected to masonic orders), i think he was serious. i also don't think you realize just how influential a man Albert Pike was. just because you haven't heard of him(or maybe you're a mason and you have), doesn't mean that he's a nobody to ignore. no, this is the man interred in the most splendid bulding in the USA.
http://www.scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html Albert Pike is the teacher of H.R.H the Duke of Kent. http://www.grandlodge-england.org/ugle/whos-who.htm

personally, i don't think that being an atheist makes you a born killer any more than i think being a catholic makes you a killer. of course all the main religions suggest that it's bad to be mean(yes, there are also conflicting teachings, but most people like the nice parts). i think that being a twisted evil b@sT8ad makes you a born killer, in that posssesion couldn't hurt either. :wink:

i think these damned Luciferian, Satan worshipping folks like Albert Pike are the cause of the real trouble. they're all about exercising pure will, and the corruption of others via human weakness, like fear and greed, but that's just my opinion. oh, and it's my opinion that christopher hitchins is just another of their lackeys and is not a good example for anyone. he is a good writer, but that's not no reason to go around believing anything he says. he blames religion for war, but sadaam wasn't in any way religious, and hitchins supported not only sanctions that killed so many hundreds of thousands of children, but also the war that's killed the rest of them, not to mention so many americans. that is the perfect example of the word hypocrite. he's entitled to make mistakes, but i hope he recognizes such a big one. i hope the same for myself. likewise for you and everyone else. it's our only hope, because if you recognize a mistake, you can correct it before it becomes a bigger problem...
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Still I don't see any support of your claim that he's a hidden admirer of atheism. I think it's you again attempting to vilify atheism.
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I don't think Atheism needs to be vilified any more than religion needs to be vilified.
It wont stop anyone from giving it a shot though.
I mean, after all.. this thread was started for the express intent of vilifying religion..
Or at least promoting the work of a man who made a good chunk of change vilifying religion.

I think it has been clearly shown that the issue is not religion or the lack of it, but simple human nature that is the problem.
Humans will kill each other over religion or the lack of it. They will kill each other pretty much any time they see a difference in others they don't particularly like.
Humans love to kill one another. I mean, just look at all the clever ways they have come up with over the years to dispatch other people.
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bingo.
dude.
he says that the organization is going to promote athiesm as an opponent to christianity to destroy civilization as we know it and usher in a pure Luciferian ageon atheists have subsequently risen to power in many places in the world and committed mass murder. Lucifer is the "light bringer" the root of the "tree of knowledge of good and evil". his people bear the sign of the dragon like count dracula or aurthur pendragon or merovingian. it is a plan. it calls for these athiest leaders to be mass killers in ordere to mess up people's heads. this has nothing to do with what i think! :)

hitchins is as i pictured him. what he's done is verifiable fact.

Albert Pike is who he is and these small quotes(and the book) i posted are also verifiable. they're not my opinion. i just posted them here for edification and clarity. i don't need to discredit or attack anything, i like the truth. the truth is not an offense. if i were you, i'd want to know about this guy and his purposes and the group the he has helped to shepherd. this stuff is part of eugenics, as are athiests.

it's not the idea of atheism that bothers me, certainly scepticism is a good idea in life. if atheists are wrong about a god existing, that's their problem. if they're right it doesn't mattter either way anyway since life is just a chemical anomoly in that case. a guy planning hell on earth using atheism as an engine, whose writings are revered throughout the ruling class, who had a definite plan is a concern, even to atheists..

how can your mind be big enough to struggle with the existance or not of a cosmic force like "god"' and yet is to small to examine the reality of some guy named Pike?
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