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yup, it's very unhebrew to believe in the trinity that began with nimrod, semaramis and tammuz(osiris, isis and horus). there have been several attempts at "hebrewizing" christianity, though as you say, the trinity is fairly well accepted canon...
God is not great: How religion poisons everthing
One of the biggest problems with Christianity is that you either HAVE to have a concept like the trinity, or you have to be content with the notion that by worshiping Christ you are breaking what could arguably be the most important of God's 10 commandments.yup, it's very unhebrew to believe in the trinity that began with nimrod, semaramis and tammuz(osiris, isis and horus). there have been several attempts at "hebrewizing" christianity, though as you say, the trinity is fairly well accepted canon...
And if you entertain the very distinct possibility that judaism itself came out of Egypt, and Atensim it's not too big of a stretch to see where the concept of the trinity could have come out of sumerian or egyptian religions as well.
But then most of what I have read about nimrod was in Jack Chick tracts about how evil Catholics are, so..
yes, true for the olympian gods. the olympian gods were not the creators of the universe, just powerful forces that ruled aspects of it. the olympian gods were the children of older gods(chronus/saturn). really, it's a matter of semantics, but even in animistic traditions, there is a "great spirit" that is the father of the gods...alfonso wrote:Not true for the gods of the Olympus. Nor for the animistic traditions, a.f.a.i.k.garyb wrote: in the world of hundreds of gods it's always been known(
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BingoTheClowno
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judahism is not nessessarily hebrew or even israelite. judah is one of several hebrew tribes.
atenism is just another form of sun god worship, no different than appollo, baal, quetzequatl or molech, it is not hebrew. really, atenism is the same religion of ra/osiris, but was a direct political blow to the priesthood of the time. the trinity is NOT hebrew and though hebrews learned many habits from the egyptians, no israelites who followed hebrew traditions ever followed the trinity(except for the ones who made the golden calf of molech). many members of the ruling classes and consequently many of the masses, did follow pagan beliefs as evidenced by the cabala and many parts of the old and new testaments.
zeus is just the roman name for the old sumerian god. nimrod was the one who, according to the encyclopedia brittanica set up state run religion with a god/king who was the sun god incarnate and instituted the idea of "government through random acts of violence". when the us/coalition forces went into iraq and secured the iraqi national museum, they were ecstatic to find the treasures of nimrod still intact(according to the los angeles times). nimrod(also known as gilgamesh), is the founder of civilization as we know it, and all kings from all nations are according to his example. the present day land of iraq is named after the ancient name of uruq. the powers that be try to tell us history as though all these different kingdoms are disconnected from each other. in reality, it's one big continuum.
none of this has anything to do with whether or not there is a creator of the universe, however.....
btw-a funny aside...saturn, the roman god, is the name spelled according to late latin. in early latin, the spelling is satan...
atenism is just another form of sun god worship, no different than appollo, baal, quetzequatl or molech, it is not hebrew. really, atenism is the same religion of ra/osiris, but was a direct political blow to the priesthood of the time. the trinity is NOT hebrew and though hebrews learned many habits from the egyptians, no israelites who followed hebrew traditions ever followed the trinity(except for the ones who made the golden calf of molech). many members of the ruling classes and consequently many of the masses, did follow pagan beliefs as evidenced by the cabala and many parts of the old and new testaments.
zeus is just the roman name for the old sumerian god. nimrod was the one who, according to the encyclopedia brittanica set up state run religion with a god/king who was the sun god incarnate and instituted the idea of "government through random acts of violence". when the us/coalition forces went into iraq and secured the iraqi national museum, they were ecstatic to find the treasures of nimrod still intact(according to the los angeles times). nimrod(also known as gilgamesh), is the founder of civilization as we know it, and all kings from all nations are according to his example. the present day land of iraq is named after the ancient name of uruq. the powers that be try to tell us history as though all these different kingdoms are disconnected from each other. in reality, it's one big continuum.
none of this has anything to do with whether or not there is a creator of the universe, however.....
btw-a funny aside...saturn, the roman god, is the name spelled according to late latin. in early latin, the spelling is satan...
Yes, but Atenism was one of (if not the first) monotheistc religion.atenism is just another form of sun god worship, no different than appollo, baal, quetzequatl or molech, it is not hebrew.
It is believed that the first books of the bible were written by Moses, who came out of Egypt. It is not unreasonable to believe that Moses could have been exposed to Atenism, and he may have brought that with him.
There are plenty of folks who believe that the biblical Christ was just another repackaged 'sun god'.
Which of course makes perfect sense as Christ had not been born yet...no israelites who followed hebrew traditions ever followed the trinity
This is kinda funny.. Another note on satan.. "lucifer" is never mentioned in the bible before it was translated to the latin Vulgate.btw-a funny aside...saturn, the roman god, is the name spelled according to late latin. in early latin, the spelling is satan...
Just in case anyone wanted to know why an ancient evil entity that supposedly existed since before the creation of the earth would have a Roman name.
lucifer is horus, also known as appollo(in the bible appollyon). he is the morning star, the son of the sun god and his consort, the moon goddess. this can be seen on top of the mosque today as a moon and star(or the hammer and sickle of the communist world), the peak of the minaret being the phallus of the sun god, the moon as the devine mother and the star as lucifer/horus.
atenism is not the first monotheistic religion although it's credited as such on the history channel....the pharoh just refused to allow the other forms of the deity to be worshipped. still, the pharoh was in the form of horus, the man-king who has not yet ascended, who is yet to take his heavenly throne as the sun god in his heavenly form. the priestly caste was cut off from normal power channels and rebelled. basically, atenism was a form of the mystery religion like cabala, some forms of catholicism, and gnosticism, all very un-hebrew...
moses did not write the pentatuch, even according to Jews. this is what's told to children. in fact, in the bible, it's mentioned that in the reign of a certain king, these books were rediscovered and there was much gnashing of teeth and repentance. moses was a lawgiver true, but not a book writer..
atenism is not the first monotheistic religion although it's credited as such on the history channel....the pharoh just refused to allow the other forms of the deity to be worshipped. still, the pharoh was in the form of horus, the man-king who has not yet ascended, who is yet to take his heavenly throne as the sun god in his heavenly form. the priestly caste was cut off from normal power channels and rebelled. basically, atenism was a form of the mystery religion like cabala, some forms of catholicism, and gnosticism, all very un-hebrew...
moses did not write the pentatuch, even according to Jews. this is what's told to children. in fact, in the bible, it's mentioned that in the reign of a certain king, these books were rediscovered and there was much gnashing of teeth and repentance.
moses was a lawgiver true, but not a book writer..stay with this one for a moment... 
source=The History of the
House of Rothschild by Andrew Hitchcock :
1871: An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the Illuminati by Guissepe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage.
The first world war is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia,as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to forment this war.
The second world war is to be used to forment the controversy between facism and political zionism with the slaughter of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds created) and increase the power of political zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.
The third world war is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.
On August 15th of this year, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following,
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view.
A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Pike, who having been elected as Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry's Southern Jurisdiction in 1859, was the most powerful Freemason in America. He would retain that post for 32 years until his death in 1891. He also published a book on the subject in 1872 entitled, "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry," in which he candidly states the following,
"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"
the light bearer! the bringer of reason and wisdom and knowledge!
source=The History of the
House of Rothschild by Andrew Hitchcock :
1871: An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the Illuminati by Guissepe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage.
The first world war is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia,as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to forment this war.
The second world war is to be used to forment the controversy between facism and political zionism with the slaughter of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds created) and increase the power of political zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.
The third world war is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.
On August 15th of this year, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following,
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view.
A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Pike, who having been elected as Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry's Southern Jurisdiction in 1859, was the most powerful Freemason in America. He would retain that post for 32 years until his death in 1891. He also published a book on the subject in 1872 entitled, "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry," in which he candidly states the following,
"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"
the light bearer! the bringer of reason and wisdom and knowledge!
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BingoTheClowno
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BingoTheClowno wrote:Yup, that's where we take our children to be sodomized.garyb wrote:do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do...
that fits in perfectly with this quote from Albert, i have a statue outside the US
Justice dept building, Pike:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view."
http://www.cafepress.com/kelleyimages/806578
albert p[ike is buried here: http://www.scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html
good old Albert! he founded the KKK...
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Mr Arkadin
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He obviously doesn't know many atheists then - all the ones i know are peace loving.garyb wrote:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Again, a true atheist (if i am to use that label) isn't looking for anyone to adore - that's the whole point for me, so i don't see myself worshipping Lucifer or any other bollocky political creature thrown for me to adore. There's no disillusionment because i don't believe in the illusion in the first place, i'm not looking for something else to worship and i don't think many are, well not in the UK anyway."Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration[...]"