God is not great: How religion poisons everthing

[manfriday]

Why do you need one?
Do you have some sort of quota you need to fill?

[braincell]

Nobody will bite because they can not offer proof which shows their belief system is false. You can't have religion without god. Is there a god nor not?

[BingoTheClowno]

Life is bright. It is almost midsummer. Good vibes all around. Let your love flow.

Just like you are or did?


Or maybe I should listen to Moses

Thus sayeth the LORD God of Israel, "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour".
Exod 32:27

or


Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Is this what inspires you? Or you have an "interpretation" for this fatuous genocide?

[BingoTheClowno]

Nobody will bite because they can not offer proof which shows their belief system is false. You can't have religion without god. Is there a god nor not?

They're courageous thinkers! Ones that have conquered their cognitive dissonances.

[manfriday]

Nobody will bite because they can not offer proof which shows their belief system is false.

Uhh No, it doesn't. It just means that can't show it's true. That is not the same thing.

They're courageous thinkers! Ones that have conquered their cognitive dissonances.

Jesus Christ man, you mock people for saying there is a god, you mock people for not saying there is god.
The only people you dont mock are the people who will hate believers with the same venom that you do.
You are an empty head and a sharp tongue.
nothing more. What a waste.

[darkrezin]

manfriday - I gave up a few pages ago when I realised this is like trying to reason with a child having a tantrum.

[braincell]

No, we wish you would give up though.

[BingoTheClowno]

Dear friends of dialectic lopsidedness, that you impressively demonstrated in this thread.

For your enjoyment a simple google search spit out some links.
I am sure reading them will bring you hours of discomfort that you seem to prefer to slightly more decent ways of life.

Enjoy.

All others do not need to waste time on it. Nothing amazingly new. Just the other side of the medal.

Thanks, this is quite amusing

Anselm's ontological argument for the existence of God is, in one sense, quite simple; God is that-than-which-no-greater-can-be-thought, and he must, therefore, exist, for otherwise he would not be that-than-which-no-greater-can-be-thought.

[braincell]

Let us just look at reality and the facts versus theists who want us to consider superstition and fantasy.

[braincell]

US House approves foreign aid; ignites abortion fight

http://www.reuters.com/article/homepage ... ._CH_.2400

[BingoTheClowno]

Dear friends of the intellectual narrowness.
I think you recently lacked of positive enthusiasm.

please find heresome booster for your discomfort in order to recharging your batteries.

In short: You are deeply locked into the fallacy of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam with the atheistic panting for a proof of god.

Get alive my friends

So we can claim that an invisible bowl of spagheti is omnipresent and omniscient but we don't have the proof therefore it could be true?

[garyb]

you can say anything. you don't have to prove it.
neither do i have to believe it.

the truth will always remain in the end in any case.

[BingoTheClowno]

you can say anything. you don't have to prove it.
neither do i have to believe it.

the truth will always remain in the end in any case.

What truth? What end? You're not talking about that armageddon/rapture lunacy now, are you?

[garyb]

small mind.
the end is unseeable. our point of veiw is limited. small. the argument is entertaining, but meaningless.

[BingoTheClowno]

You sound like a prophet.

[garyb]

5 or 10?

[BingoTheClowno]

So then your faith is based on a complete fallacy?
How the fuck can you claim that god said this and that, and did such and such things if you don't have a proof that it exists?

One needs more than the logical and/or the deterministic probe to reality in order to access that field of perception.

What would those be? Ghosts detectors?

[manfriday]

perhaps you need to learn what faith is.
Maybe wiki has an entry for it.

[BingoTheClowno]

perhaps you need to learn what faith is.
Maybe wiki has an entry for it.

If faith is your "deterministic probe to reality" you're in big trouble.
Why don't you jump off a cliff with the faith that you can fly?

[BingoTheClowno]

Bingo, you dont need to bend yourself to that kind of 'seeing more than only the material'.
It is ok to have a rationalistic perception only, as long as you dont insist that that is the only way.

There might be even many 'believers' that deceive themselves and see things that are only a product of their willing fantasy.
Still that does not exclude a transcendental way of world view.

Think about the situation that you would have eyes to see and around you are blind people.
The blinds would say, that reality is what you feel and hear.
This seeing and colors and light is all fantasy and cannot be proven.

Maybe there are also some blinds that pretend to see and talk about colors they have never seen
Still there might be some that do see.
And faith is the access to those things when you dont see yet.

Ok this is just and analogon and will not completely fit, but it gives you an impression what these execrable people speak about.

And you don't have to make this transcendental crap your credo and imbue millions of children with the same crap claiming it is the absolute truth of this earth. Unscrupulous charlatans!
So if a blind never saw colors, why does he have to invent them?
Or are you claiming that only select few are the "holders of the divine secret" and the rest don't see the "light" yet? This would be pure charlatanic manipulation.