Vista OEM

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:43 am

darkrezin wrote:...
The only annoying things on Mac for me are:

1. Finder - this file manager is ancient and cumbersome. It cannot merge nested folders, something that makes certain tasks very tedious.
...

righty right, it's an antic piece of unix crap, build by a company called 'NEXT'
the 'originl' Mac Finder was sacked with OSX afaik...

garyb wrote:...actually, a mac is a great, but overpriced machine(the parts are worth about $1000 at full retail)...

overpriced ?

that Bassbone DI/Pre thingy on my desk costed me 269 and it's parts aren't even worth twenty Euros

(but it's got those screws on the bottom the ASBs should have got...)

cheers, Tom

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:58 am

ok, ok, i take it back! the price is fair. most wouldn't want to bother to snap the pieces together, it's true.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:25 am

you b*strd

1 (great hardware) + 1 (great OS software) = 1 , that's what makes it so good

Also, lots of Apple inventions (bluetooth etc.) are the result of reseach which should be payed for.
Most important tho is that an Apple isn't more expensive than a pc, if you consider the time it keeps it's value (function) and and the time you don't loose...

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:51 am

no doubt.
the only thing i don't like is the same thing that keeps the value up and a scope card out of it, the elitist attitude.

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:53 am

hubird wrote: you b*strd
1 (great hardware[the same as any top quality pc]) + 1 (great OS software[unix, a very old, established os]) = 1 , that's what makes it so good

Post by **hubird** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:55 am

at least there is an(y) attitude...

The colored parts are correct and even support the attitude

(- don't forget the " + " symbol...there's the real secret if you ask me: you can blame the one who's responsible for the combination).

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:56 am

yes, in this rough and tumble world of today, it's all about the 'tude....

sorry for messing with you hubird, but i know you can take it!

Post by **hubird** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:10 pm

hubird wrote: Now that Apple machines are built on Intel, there's no reason anymore not to buy a mac.
Not sure about every single word Gary

then you said:

i said that?

sorry gary, thought the (mild) irony was included in the smilie

In fact you said exactly that only without the word 'not'.
Just to clarify

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Yes, always fun to have this conversation with you

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:44 pm

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:51 pm

The only way I'd take an appaul of your hands is if it comes with the Oscilloscope module for sdk.

(ok, just kidding)

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:45 am

astroman wrote:
darkrezin wrote:...
1. Finder - this file manager is ancient and cumbersome. It cannot merge nested folders, something that makes certain tasks very tedious.
...
righty right, it's an antic piece of unix crap, build by a company called 'NEXT'
the 'originl' Mac Finder was sacked with OSX afaik...

Wow I didn't know that (I'm not an OS9 afficionado by any means). It's still crap though

The way it deals with nested folders is absolutely retarded and illogical. There's quite a few alternative file managers for the Mac, I am quite surprised that Apple hasn't bought one yet.

arela · Post by **arela** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:03 pm

Vista Corporate is totaly unusable; no FreeCell, no Spider Solitare

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:56 am

arela wrote:Vista Corporate is totaly unusable; ...
no Spider Solitare

this is a killer app. how can they dare to rip it off?

Micha · Post by **Micha** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:59 am

yeah Vista.
So here is my plan for the future:
since my DAW is offline, I first must buy a card to get online. yep.
And, of course, I need a provider. well, bitter pill.
Bang!
Then I go to some place where I can download a latest virus scanner. ok.
Then I open my box and put in the card. yeah.
Then I install the virus scanner. must be.
Then I pick up my DAW and bring it to the phone, only two rooms further. well then.
Then I dial up for the internet. waiting...
Then I look up for the latest viruses. more waiting...
Then, yeah, then I can activate my vista. jipee!
Then I can disconnect. Ha.
Then I can deinstall the virus scanner. no hassle while recording.
Then I bring back my DAW. remember? 2 rooms only.
Then I remove the card. pfff.
(should I add here then I pray that my DAW still works?...)
Uff!
Oh, should I mention that my DAW is built in?
It's in the living room, so it's invisible, except you know what to open.

After something like a month or so, vista comes up with a reminder, something like could not connect with activation server. or so.
And then again:
Bang!
then, then, then. etc.
Uff!

No, I prefer the easy solution:
Hasta la vista!

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:29 am

Micha wrote:yeah Vista.
So here is my plan for the future:
since my DAW is offline, I first must buy a card to get online. yep.
And, of course, I need a provider. well, bitter pill.

did the take out the phone activation method? that would have been another possibility for you...

No, I prefer the easy solution:
Hasta la vista!

nevertheless, I agree with you

-greetings, markus-

Micha · Post by **Micha** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:25 am

yes, no phone AFAIK. For corporate it is recommended to have a
server running, so the workstations can activate themselves in house.
No more volume license also.
The point is this permanent activating thing.
With phone?
No, offline DAW's are somehow not in their view.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:55 am

Micha wrote:yes, no phone AFAIK.

well, I was curious and found a whitepaper from microsoft saying that there is an option via telephone, which will be available in case no internet connection is detected (whatever qualifies for an internet connection or no was not revealed, though).
if a connection was found, bang. (to say it with your words

)

-greetings, markus-

ps:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... tionWP.doc

Micha · Post by **Micha** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:17 am

Ok, must install it anyway, so I'll have a look.
Thanks for the link!

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:51 am

what's the best alternative file browser for mac? I too hate the frickin' finder. Even windows explorer beats that (although on my pc at home I use the xplorer2 browser in addition to windows explorer)

Macs are nice. I've always felt OSX to feel sluggish compared to XP though (maybe it's to do with all the animated bullshit in OSX that there isn't a simple preference for to switch off).

Oh and what about mouse acceleration? I HATE that but it seems impossible to turn off. Luckily I use Wacoms mostly....

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:45 am

Path Finder is a good one: http://www.cocoatech.com/