Questions about developing modular modules.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:39 am

I've got a couple of theoretical questions for the Scope developers here:-

A:- Would it be possible to build a single modular module which is triple the width of a normal one, but still snaps into position in the Mod Shell with LHS horizontal & top/bottom vertical alignment?

B:- Would it be possible to build a modular module specifically designed with internal modulation routing which allows onboard patching within itself?

Thanks

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:52 am

re: A - Not sure about these widths, I have not seen such 2U or 3U width modules yet.

re: B - check this mixing or switchingmatrix from j9k. The one with mixing is 8x8, and the switching one is euhm huge. These matrices can route all modulation sources to destinations, without reconnecting stuff and their settings can be stored in presets...

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:05 am

Ok, thanks Atom. I still need an answer to A, but your answer to B confirms that what I have in mind would be theoretically possible (if the answer to A is 'yes'

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:59 am

i've made a try and it works.
For horizontal size it must be in multiples of 250 px, for vertical it must be multiple of 30 px.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:24 pm

YES !!!

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:21 am

The idea of 2U or 3U wide modules really opens up the Scope of what could be built so to speak.

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:18 am

Micron, have you tried smaller modules also? For example for modules of 1/2 U (125 pixel) that I think could be useful for single switches or other small stuff.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:47 am

Now you're talking Lima. That's a great idea too!! If it's possible, we are truely rocking with sigificantly pimping the modular.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:00 am

I don't think it's possible Lima

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:23 am

On 2006-06-03 09:18, Lima wrote:
Micron, have you tried smaller modules also? For example for modules of 1/2 U (125 pixel) that I think could be useful for single switches or other small stuff.

it is possible to do 125 px surfaces, but if opened from standard modular shells it will be used as a 250 px surface, so, it will be not possible to place 2 of them in the same row.

It is possible to create a new modular shell, with different snap values, such as 125.
I'm working on it...

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:26 am

While we're on the subject, would a 62.5px snap be possible? This (62.5 or 125px snap) wouldn't or shouldn't be a very big deal for CW to include in an update for ModII & ModIII.

(if they'd be so kind)

(please CW)
(pretty please)

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johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:21 pm

Shroomz,

For Scope DP, you can't enter any values that are with decimal points, therefore, 62.5 pixels shows up as just 62 (and that's what the window tries to use).

It's easy to change the ModularWindow to 125 x 15 (half of current Window grid) - I just made one here, but haven't tested it yet.

Of course, you'd also need some smaller modules to try it.....

cheers,
john b.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:28 am

On 2006-06-03 19:21, johnbowen wrote:
For Scope DP, you can't enter any values that are with decimal points, therefore, 62.5 pixels shows up as just 62 (and that's what the window tries to use).

Ok thanks John. I sort of suspected that.

It's easy to change the ModularWindow to 125 x 15 (half of current Window grid) - I just made one here, but haven't tested it yet.

Don't suppose you could PM me that or post it as a beta in devices John?

Of course, you'd also need some smaller modules to try it.....

I'm sure someone will make them if the new mod shell you mention works & you can release it. Also if Micron's new hosts can snap to 125px they'll be compatable. It sounds like he may be working on that.

cheers

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:48 am

This could be really cool. You could build modules in this sort of format.

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:30 am

John, Micron, we've been thinking about this in more depth & if you guys can make the snap on the modular shells 25px horizontal & 30px vertical, it would make a lot of sense to do so. With those snap settings, modules could be made which are (for example) 25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175 etc etc pixels wide. This would give designers of modules similar horizontal module width options as they currently have vertically.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:17 pm

*ED*

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ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:41 pm

Would it be possible to enlarge the MRC too?

16 remote points are often not enough?
Could be difficult to do this, though.

Great idea to enlarge the modules.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:21 am

Chris, the OSC design above would require 5 existing oscillators, making it somewhat smaller if someone builds it

Great idea to enlarge the MRC too !!

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:35 am

My Oberheim attempt has five OSCs.
A beta should be there tomorrow.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:35 am

Cool

Hey, it would be cool to pack the MRC with a nicer higher res pot animation too.