Athlon or Intel?
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For use with Pulsar, your processor type doesn't play as big a role as chipset does. I'd go for AMD XP processors because it's so much cheaper and more powerful than Intel, but make sure you get a motherboard with an AMD 761 or Via KT266A chipset.
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Got a AMD Athlon 700Mhz and it works well with the Pulsar ,but if you have some Via Chip´s in your Comuter your are fu.... up because there are problems with the Pci capability.For example the Prisma,a quite nice little Synth and a huge modulation matrix.I load it with 3 Voices I can handel maybe 4 or 5 with my SRB board,but if I play 3 voices Pulsar will crash with the Message Pci overflow,thank you. I can play the prisma monophone at least,Ha Ha.
So be careful because you will get no solution from Creamware because there is no solutaion anyway.
So be careful because you will get no solution from Creamware because there is no solutaion anyway.
So you'd like your card compatible with any pc, well, a F1-car wouldn't keep track on a VW-Beetles tyres, mein freund.
People who buy DSP cards are putting lots of their money in that, a fractiion of that will be necessary to get a decent motherboard.
Same goes for the CPU: nobody's running Celeron, for audio processing you want a PIII with all the L2 cache you can get.
Have fun.
People who buy DSP cards are putting lots of their money in that, a fractiion of that will be necessary to get a decent motherboard.
Same goes for the CPU: nobody's running Celeron, for audio processing you want a PIII with all the L2 cache you can get.
Have fun.
Well I think Pentium are really starting to get a bit too much now with their prices. It was understandable coupla years ago that a Pentium was always best and that Celeron was this, Cyrix was that etc etc. AMD have really done well for themselves and have processors that stand up to Pentium 4's and at a cheaper price. Go for AMD. The days of Pentium are becoming numbered ![:wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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While AMD has a stronger chip for past/current applications, they really do lack a reliable and robust <i>platform</i> for their excellent (although <i>hot</i> running) CPUs. Intel platform (ie: i815, i845D, i850) is so much more mature, solid, reliable. If you just want an extremely reliable working system the choice is still Intel quite clearly. But AMD's latest dual processor solution (AMD760MP etc) is looking really good. Plus as P4 ramps in MHz and applications become more optimized for it's new architecture, we will see the P4 once again stomp. BTW: P4 2.2Ghz is currently <b><i>THE FASTEST DESKTOP CPU</i></b> (yes faster than any Athlon) although quite a bit more expensive.
This is just the way Intel works: a premium for the fastest chip, and reliable, mature platforms. And AMD: make cheap, fast chips with little or no thermal protection, no CPU core protection (broken cores are common with AMDs - Intel uses a "heat spreader" which protects their core, and clock throttling for thermal protection), and AMD also doesn't want to make platforms except to "seed" the market. The last item is what bothers me the most about AMD.
But I still love AMD Cpus, they really are awesome for the price.![:smile:](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
This is just the way Intel works: a premium for the fastest chip, and reliable, mature platforms. And AMD: make cheap, fast chips with little or no thermal protection, no CPU core protection (broken cores are common with AMDs - Intel uses a "heat spreader" which protects their core, and clock throttling for thermal protection), and AMD also doesn't want to make platforms except to "seed" the market. The last item is what bothers me the most about AMD.
But I still love AMD Cpus, they really are awesome for the price.
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P4T-E will accept a 2.2 or 2.4 with a bios update... as far as I know, this update is now on their website.
As soon as the 2.4ghz are out, I'm replacing my p3 800 as it's starting to show it's age.
Intel's roadmap expects 3.0ghz by the end of this year! They (Intel) continue to predict they can solidly keep up with Moore's Law until atleast the yr 2010 and most likely 2020, so expect the speed of processors to continue to double about every 18 months.
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As soon as the 2.4ghz are out, I'm replacing my p3 800 as it's starting to show it's age.
Intel's roadmap expects 3.0ghz by the end of this year! They (Intel) continue to predict they can solidly keep up with Moore's Law until atleast the yr 2010 and most likely 2020, so expect the speed of processors to continue to double about every 18 months.
- sinix
Maybe this was up to a couple of days ago. You should check the AMD site for their newest CPU,On 2002-01-05 14:03, subhuman wrote:
Plus as P4 ramps in MHz and applications become more optimized for it's new architecture, we will see the P4 once again stomp. BTW: P4 2.2Ghz is currently <b><i>THE FASTEST DESKTOP CPU</i></b> (yes faster than any Athlon) although quite a bit more expensive.
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Frankly, it doesn't matter to me if it has all that technology or not,This is just the way Intel works: a premium for the fastest chip, and reliable, mature platforms. And AMD: make cheap, fast chips with little or no thermal protection, no CPU core protection (broken cores are common with AMDs - Intel uses a "heat spreader" which protects their core, and clock throttling for thermal protection), and AMD also doesn't want to make platforms except to "seed" the market. The last item is what bothers me the most about AMD.
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I support AMD just because they are not into the blurp business like M$ and Crapple are,But I still love AMD Cpus, they really are awesome for the price.![]()
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Yoonchi.
sandro this information will always be listed on http://www.infinitevortex.com
All systems tested for use with Creamware. VIA KT266A has been tested but will not be available from us. Athlon MPs have been tested and might show up sometime soon.
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I have to test each change to make sure everything still works well. This takes a lot of time. The tech world moves very quickly, when really, you can produce an entire album (40+ channels, 44.1khz, 16 bit) with an "old" CUSL2 and a Pulsar card. ![:smile:](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
<i>Maybe this was up to a couple of days ago. You should check the AMD site for their newest CPU,</i>
Nope; the Intel P4 2.2 is still slightly faster than the Athlon 2000+ in nearly all tests. Of course, P4 2.2 also costs quite a bit more than AMD 2000+, as you always pay a premium for the lastest & greatest from Intel, where AMD has a more linear price scale on their CPUs.
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<i>Maybe this was up to a couple of days ago. You should check the AMD site for their newest CPU,</i>
Nope; the Intel P4 2.2 is still slightly faster than the Athlon 2000+ in nearly all tests. Of course, P4 2.2 also costs quite a bit more than AMD 2000+, as you always pay a premium for the lastest & greatest from Intel, where AMD has a more linear price scale on their CPUs.
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