The Sony Multimedia World Corporation

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:50 pm

I don't know how anybody feels about our favourite company, and many others like it,but I think freedom of speech does count here.If computer piracy does destroy the music industry,as we have been led to believe,It Will not However destroy Music (and it's creators).Mmmm That's a weight off my chest.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:33 pm

What do you mean exactly? I can easily interpret in in completely opposite ways... Make clear your point so we understand please

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:53 pm

Fine I don't mind being more clear.A music industry slogan is"piracy kills music",and unless proven,in black and white I'm very dubious,but the good news is, I personally don't need a multi-national to make music,and nore does anyone else here I imagine.
Frankly If all of the"music industry "wasn't so bloody enormous I think that musicians, and peoples imaginations in general would benefit.
I think that's clear enough.
Keep up the good work

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:59 pm

What we need Sony to do if anything is make some substantial developements in Soundforge & Vegas instead of just buying out Sonic Foundry & sticking their name to it. Cheap Beggers.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:08 pm

3.08 am here

New Zealand ? what are you on about ?

No idea what time it is in Kiwi land

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:10 pm

So You're in England I'm Guessing and I'm In france so why does it say 19.00 up the top there

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:11 pm

well, that Sony slogan isn't that far from truth ...
without iPods and ring-tones there wouldn't be much left to sponser what's generally considered 'music' (in an artistic context)

chart records rarely satisfy the requirements of the latter - but they provide the social and cultural element the vast majority of 'listeners' demands.
you know there are parties and parties are about boy loves girl (and vice versa) and that a groove is needed to get the thing going etc etc

the so called 'majority' IS simple minded, always - there's nothing bad with it.
I'm a part of it too, sometimes

cheers, Tom

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:12 pm

You go into edit on the box down there and tick delete this post you need to put your password in

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:14 pm

Bonny Scotland & the time up the top there is US. What else ? Baghdad meantime ?

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:17 pm

Shit, I could've done that with some heated conversations around here

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:18 pm

Now if I could only delete other people's

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:23 pm

No I agree I'm not against the music industry But it just bugs me that they winge about not making enough money,and we know it's not "the music" that they care, or know anything about,but the shareholders who aren't happy.
If they promoted musicians in general,and not their market of 15-24 year olds something may just happen.
I saw a kid the other day playing guitar the other evening,he made joe satriani look like a tap dancing hamster.needless to say I don't think he's been inspired by Oasis or Robbie Williams.

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:30 pm

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Post by **hubird** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:18 pm

vague debate...use cr*cks if you want, but do you need any ideology to justify that, or what?

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:53 pm

On 2005-12-19 20:18, hubird wrote:
vague debate...use cr*cks if you want, but do you need any ideology to justify that, or what?

This is exactly what I wanted to say, and where I wanted him to go by himself...

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:53 pm

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:09 am

I wasn't going to go anywhere by myself,I have the courage of my convictions, and if did want to, I'd go to a psychotherapist,I'm not paranoid because I do have hope.
All I'm saying is that if you have to drag people kicking and screaming out of the mainstream,then do it.
I'm just sick of switching on the radio in the car and hearing the same 30 song playlist on every station.

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:26 am

it's even more annoying if they optimaster the already overproduced content once more before airplay...

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:29 am

I c where you're coming from an a big way, but you should know what we're up against. Mainstream music has been manipulated into it's horrific *manufactured* state to make money from the masses, simple as that. The clever guys know that 80-90% of the masses are quite happy to listen to manufactured rubbish in abundance & thus procede to spoon feed it to them in ANY way they can, just as they do with television, films & even the media (manufactured news & media)

What's the answer? Who would you drag kicking & screaming? I reckon turn on the radio knowing what the program is. There *are* good radio broadcasts (musically speaking) applying to almost all genres of music. You just have to pick & choose what you watch, what you listen to, what you believe. If you change that in a radical shift, surely you'd be the one doing the spoon feeding ?

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:51 am

On 2005-12-20 04:09, H-Rave wrote:
...I'm just sick of switching on the radio in the car and hearing the same 30 song playlist on every station...

but seriously - they don't play that list (or sponsored self fullfilling prophecy) just to nag you personally.
There is a lot of reasearch done which content is the most effective to transmit the commercial content that's the stations' own business.

People eat that sh*t like burgers...
do you consider yourself more equal ?

fine - then we're a couple of virtual non-democrats already...

Any industry is always complaing that not enough cash comes in - it's the same boring story over and over again. It's an integral part of the system and can be ignored by those able to think (who wouldn't believe the whiners anyway)

since hundreds of years the mainstream always financed the 'sophisticated' stuff - but isn't it that today you actually HAVE alternatives ?

you can load tons of mp3 stuff (according to your taste) unattended from the net and use it on a portable player in the car.
could it be that you feel just excluded because the station ignores you ?

the content for playback isn't a problem, and the sound quality from your player is probably even better than the radio, but there's no personal adress anymore - you're alone on the road and no longer a part of the station's community

at least something like that did matter for me when I had to use the car a lot - you entered a certain area and switched to a familiar station

cheers, tom

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