Suggestion for a 3rd Party Synth that runs under XTC?

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:58 pm

I have a XTC card, along with a UAD-1 and a PowerCore. I chiefly use the XTC for synths, yet I don't own any other than what came with the card. I would like to expand my pallette, but have no idea what's out there. What I really want is something that runs in XTC mode, that is sufficiently different from the Creamware synths I have.

I'm sure there are a lot of different opinions, but is there a concensus as to what the "must have" synths are?

Thanks.

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:28 pm

Minimax

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:54 pm

Really? It seems like it's just an improved MiniSCOPE - though probably vastly improved.

I really want something entirely different.

steffensen · Post by **steffensen** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:42 am

zezappa · Post by **zezappa** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:22 am

John Bowen's Solaris, Red Dwarf Ex and the RD II Modules. My favs though few I know.

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:52 am

I was considering some of the stuff on zargmusic. Red Dwarf sounds like there's a lot to learn to get the most out of it. Is it simple to get started with?

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:15 am

Wavelenght's synths are amazing for me: something close to the real thing!!!
Deep basses and as-real sweeping filters

And cheap

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:25 pm

Wow, the wavelength stuff sounds great! The mp3s do anyway; i haven't downloaded the demo versions yet. If they are as good as the sample mp3s, I'm going to buy the whole package.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:26 am

RichElam,
there are also old sytnhs from wavelength for free on the net, I love all of these.
They are often labeled as "Hummel":

- Miniscope hummel (for me is rather close to Minimax)
- Minimod hummel (an enhanced/extended version of miniscope hummel)
- Inferno hummel
- Bluesynth hummel 1 and 2
- DrumVox
- Juicer
- Thrust (very very amazing!!!)

They are very well done and powerful (mainly modified version of creamware's official synths), maybe the only free devices that real sounds FAT and PRO.

I'm looking for other Hummel-Wavelength relase, if anyone know something that is not listed above, please add it and/or share it.

Now I can't afford a Wavelength device but, when I become less "poor", SPARC is my next addition to my setup

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RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:51 am

Thanks for the tip, but I can't find any of the hummel stuff. In fact, when I search for something like "Inferno Hummel", all I get back are threads from this board.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:57 am

Sadly the old stuff from Hummel was linked to the old Wavelength site, and now the links are broken.
If anyone has one of these stuff in old backups, please, reshare it:

- Hummel transfusion filterbank
- Hummel plasma drumbox
- Hummel mutant
- Hummel gemini WT
- Hummel gemini PD
- Hummel Coma
- Hummel Avalon Euro
- Miniscope Hummel
- Minimod Hummel
- Inferno Hummel
- Bluesynth Hummel 1 and 2
- DrumVox Hummel
- Juicer Hummel
- Thrust Hummel

Thanks

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erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:19 am

New tread for Hummel's devices:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &0&start=0

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm

Back to the commercially available Wavelength stuff.

I tried out the demos, and it seems like they all chew up a lot more dsp power than the stuff that came with my card. Are these synths just more powerful, or do the creamware developers just do a better job optimizing?

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:45 am

I think that the first answer is the right answer...the sound is more "real", accurate and warm as other developers.

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:09 pm

Well, it doesn't really matter if they do use a lot of dsp, I'm buying them. My card only has 6 SHARC dsps, but Cubase let's me freeze tracks to free up some power without much effort (a nice little advantage of XTC mode).

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zezappa · Post by **zezappa** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:05 pm

Since some time ago that I can't get the good old free wavelenght's synths (and all the other old devices, the ModularII above all) working in XTC anymore.
I'm with SX2 and SFP4 now and what I can get is more than enough for me to learn, to work, to explore, so I just would like to know if the problem is with my system.

I also don't use the freeze function but, also to clarify, the XTC devices don't unload from DSPs when you freeze, do they?

thanks guys, Ze

RichElam · Post by **RichElam** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:12 pm

I don't know how it works in SX2 anymore (it feels like I had it installed for like a week before SX3 came out).

In SX3, when you freeze an instrument, you have the option of unloading the instrument. When I do that, the DSP load drops down to one bar (which is the same as when I have no XTC plugs running). So it allows you to exceed the DSP limitations of your card, same as it helps with CPU for native plugs.

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:15 am

On 2005-10-24 22:05, zezappa wrote:
Since some time ago that I can't get the good old free wavelenght's synths (and all the other old devices, the ModularII above all) working in XTC anymore.

Providing you have the vst dll and the synths are not in a sub folder (on the scope folder) you have to load them in SFP first, open the preset list and save the device...
They should appear now in xtc mode.
That trick always works for me on old devices...