"How I can remove vocals ?" - answers here :

DORUMALAIA · Post by **DORUMALAIA** » Tue May 27, 2003 10:38 am

Because many of you ask about this , i try to help you :

YoGenVocalRemover1.07

http://www.yogen.com/vocalremover/

VogoneVocalEliminationWorkstationv2.014

http://www.mtu.com/basics/vocal-eliminator.htm

AnalogX Vocal Remover (DX) v1.00

http://www.analogx.com/contents/dow...io/vremover.htm

AnalogX Vocal Remover (Winamp) v1.03

http://www.analogx.com/contents/dow...io/vremover.htm

Very useful can be and :

AnwidaSoft GEQ31V VST v1.1

http://www.anwida.com/geq31v.asp

TC.Works.Native.Bundle.v3.0.VST (Graphic EQ and Parametric EQ)

http://www.tcworks.de/home/content/...come/render_top

Unfortunately , in many cases , removing vocals , you 'll remove and some frequences from orkestration , but must to try ,with patience , the results are different in each case !

I hope this 'll be useful to you !

Doru Malaia
composer
http://www.dorumalaia2.com

[ This Message was edited by: DORUMALAIA on 2005-11-30 04:18 ]

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue May 27, 2003 10:48 am

My opinion:
As a programmer of MIDI files I have dealt with many people who asked if they could remove vocals from ripped songs so they could accompany themselves with the original track minus the vocals.

I have tried a lot of these applications to some extent and have found absolutely NONE that work in a desirable fashion. The end results are invariably flanged, ugly sounding and totally unuseable in a live context.

Someone will come up with an adequate app eventually...

Post by **garyb** » Tue May 27, 2003 11:40 am

doubt if it'll be soon...

snoopy4ever · Post by **snoopy4ever** » Tue May 27, 2003 12:00 pm

On 2003-05-27 11:48, paulrmartin wrote:
My opinion:
As a programmer of MIDI files I have dealt with many people who asked if they could remove vocals from ripped songs so they could accompany themselves with the original track minus the vocals.

I have tried a lot of these applications to some extent and have found absolutely NONE that work in a desirable fashion. The end results are invariably flanged, ugly sounding and totally unuseable in a live context.

Someone will come up with an adequate app eventually...

Well I'm sorry to bring bad news here.. but as musicians we are not away from the physics laws, the only approach to vocal removing technique is the phase cancelation between right and left channels, that implies only one thing..: any sound that is panned "at center" will be eliminated by shifting one of both channels. Some engineers use to put orquestation sounds way left or right and the voice just in the middle..(some Shakira recordings do this BTW).. in the cases where it's not like this.. everything is more or less panned in the middle and some frecuencies will be irremediably affected. That's like a finger-print for every song you try to process. I doubt there will be some application to handle this 100%. Again.., no software can replace a hard-headed-good ears-sound man.

[ This Message was edited by: snoopy4ever on 2003-05-27 14:38 ]

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:19 pm

Once or twice I worked with the X-Noise Demo from the Waves Restauration Bundle.
This is the best Plug to eleminate running noises, and the usual noise from bad tape recordings. For this kind of noise erase it works perfect.
Just record or play a part of the music where you can hear the noise only and let X-Noise learn the "fingerprint" of it.
After that, the noise is filtered out without showing a loss to your music.

If I remember right the presets work for Vocal remove too. Has somebody tried it with X-Noise?

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:28 am

We will have to wait for new audio standard, where the material comes multi-track and everybody can make their own mix.
Of course, a default one would be delivered.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed May 28, 2003 3:15 am

that's not so new, Spoimala. If you're lucky you can pick up one of those 8-track tape units (from 60-70s ?) on eBay.
Even the tapes are still traded, but I remember there was lot of funk and disco stuff - not exactly your preferences

Chris, I like your idea - it comes very close to what's on many current records

Snoopy, want a Shakira record with the music removed ?

cheers, Tom

snoopy4ever · Post by **snoopy4ever** » Wed May 28, 2003 1:55 pm

On 2003-05-28 04:15, astroman wrote:

Snoopy, want a Shakira record with the music removed ?

cheers, Tom

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:22 pm

I have an easier solution:
Stick the tune in a wave editor and constantly amplify the wave to 0...

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:57 pm

Ha ha, I´ve tried it with the V3.5 X-noise demo. The result was perfect.
I import "Still My Beating Heart -Sting" to Wavelab and let X-Noise learn the vocal verse. Then I let work X-Noise with the preset speech focus.

The result sounds like the vocals pass a HPF and all other instruments were cut away.

Oh, I remember you want to remove the vocals from the music and not the music from the vocals, damn.

[ This Message was edited by: ChrisWerner on 2003-05-28 15:58 ]

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed May 28, 2003 4:56 pm

ahhmm, it wasn't intened as a joke

I have a 12" of Whenever/Wherever with only the vocal track (among other mixes).
Thought Snoopy might be a fan... anyway, also a cute test track for all kinds of vocoders etc

cheers, tom

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed May 28, 2003 5:13 pm

My comment wasn`t a joke either, Tom

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Fri May 30, 2003 7:57 am

astroman, where did you get that?!?!
Can you give it to? I think it would be worth making a death metal version out of it

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri May 30, 2003 6:13 pm

I guess it's some DJ promo vinyl, but complete with cover. My prefered record shop gets that stuff frequently. I can mail it to you with an appropriate compression (I'll check for no artifacts).

cheers, Tom