Unique PlugIn´s and other tools

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 8:16 am

Aren´t they nice, those small little helpers called PlugIn?
The number of Plug´s explode in an enormous way, the last years. They become better and better, building bridges for us with an intelligent interface, support us to get the best out of our music and realize a new crazy idea nearly every day.
I think nearly all of you have a bunch of Plug´s that you use.
Let us see on any others desk, what Plug´s you prefer VST, DirectX or Scope Fusion ?

On my last tracks I tried the Anarchy VST2.0 effects, maybe you don´t know them.

http://www.hypnotoad.co.uk/anarchy/html/anarchyfx.htm
44.06 EUR
I like the surface of these plug´s very much and some of the effects come with a very crazy idea, also I like the grapical illustration of the panner and corkssrew, you can see what the effect does to your music.
One day the fusion of real time graphical illustration and music will be perfect.
BeOS have a very nice audio tool, you see a 3D grid of your audiospace, where you can place wav files as a column, the height is the volume and the position represents the panorama. You can rotate the room in any axis and do a very nice panaroma mix in a subsisting way.
Cheers

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:07 am

I like VST, DirectX and Pulsar Platform Plug-ins the same. I mean, they all are different and sound different, so it depends on what you plan to do. I like many free VST and all of the VST included in the 5.1 Version of Cubase, they sound absolutely gorgeous!

Direct X, I like many there too, but some are too hungry with the system and this is a problem.

If I was obliged to choose from… where… that would be difficult, but I think I would choose Direct X platform cos of it variety.

BTW, I think most of us tend to undervalue Creamware’s Plug-ins and Third Party Plug-ins as well... Common guys! We have an incredible set of Plug-ins!

Many of them sound as good as any good hardware.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:14 am

You want plug-ins? Here's plug-ins!:

http://www.databaseaudio.co.uk/chart.php

Lots of fun to be had with this FREE STUFF!
I particularly enjoy the online instruments

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 10:53 pm

Wow! Thanks Paul, didn't know about this one! Cheers again

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 12:40 am

THX,Paul and thanks to the guy who post this topic, nice site paul, many helpers for us.

Hi Nestor, there is one big problem I have with DirectX plug´s they are not support the Cubase automation, you can´t record knobmovements.
Today we can build our own VST PlugIn´s with SynthEdit http://www.synthedit.com .

Come on, I want to look on your desk, what plug´s you use !!

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ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:19 am

Here is a new Synthesizer, The Oddity.
A cooperation between Gmediamusic and OhmForce.(Patch morphing)
"After many months of painstaking development work we are very pleased and excited to announce the imminent arrival of several new and exciting products under our GForce brand. The first of these, The Oddity, being released on the
9th December 2002, shipping on the 18th"

"The Oddity is modelled on the classic ARP Odyssey which was used by artists as diverse as Gary Numan, Herbie Hancock, Kraftwerk and Portishead. In much the same way as the M-Tron turned a whole new generation on to those sounds, we’re certain The Oddity will do the same in terms of monophonic/duophonic synths."

http://www.gmediamusic.com

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:41 am

But it's so ugly! I can't use some plug ins just because I hate the graphics. Ohmboyz stuff I find utterly revolting comic-book rubbish and would never use them no matter how good they were. Even their "classic" skins look untidy to me.

The host Orion is also quite ugly IMHO - the green mixer knobs look so cheap. It certainly makes you appreciate the excellent interface and design of the Pulsar mixers.

Fruityloops has a much darker, serious feel that I like. That and AcidPro3/4 are my main non-Pulsar gear.

I love VST effects and instruments. Nothing beats the convenience of choosing a VSTi synth, doodling a little tune, then immediately renedering a nice little music-only loop. I often doodle like this creating a dozen or more loosley related pieces that I just store ready to construction into a song some other day.

I know there is a bit of a "VSTi Buyers Syndrome" where people just buy one cheap VSTi after another. There's no real harm in it I suppose - collecting and comparing soft-synths can be like a hobby in itself.

You can't have this "illness" so much on the SFP platform since there are not so many devices, and those that are available tend to be either free or very expensive.

I plug all sorts of stuff into Fruityloops: Absynth, Kontakt, PlasticZ, Delta-III, Drumsynth, various effects like db-delay and a few free synths like Drumatic and Quantum-64. The last two are both Synth-Edit creations and are really quite good quality.

I also got the Modular-III a short time ago and am having loads of fun with that. It just stomps on Reaktor so far as audio quality goes. Pity there's not more "plug-ins" for the Modular system - a great, great shame. I can just see that system turning into an completely incredible sound creation system... well, dream on I suppose.

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:36 am

Yeah, sometimes I stayed in bed and dreamed of a NI and Creamware cooperation.
Can you imagine a Reaktor/Modular fusion ?
An open MRC, as many knobs you like, that could close the distance between Scope and Pulsar, you were able to build your own devices on a pulsar with a nice surface.

Anyway, can you remember the letter enclosed your PulsarBox ?
The Super Bonus for all Scope/Pulsar users.
The Waldorf Wavetable OSC.
CW and Waldorf presents the first module of many following modules from Waldorf ported to the Pulsar/Scope platform.

Dreams are important !

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 12:11 pm

DirectX? What is that? hmmmm never use DX plugins since the Win98 days a LONG time ago.

It is now strictly VST FX. I only use Pulsar FX for 'pro' end-of-track stuff. Like when I'm mixing (reverb, comp, eq, etc.). But I use VST effects for sound design because of the integration with the host. I am becoming an XTC whore. . .

Regardless of what the Spirits' say, the OhmForce gear rocks, HARD. And there plugins are only $9.95 for just a few more weeks before they jump to like $70 or something. They ain't pretty, but so what? They are fun! I don't use some plugs because of the interface, but these aren't on that list!!!
Algorhythm's VST FX essentials:

top 5 VST FX co's (in no order):
1 ohmforce - cheapware
(mobilohm? predatohm? hematohm? ohmboyz? OH MY GOD!)
2 destroyfx - freeware+open source (ever run drum loops through this with temp synced square LFO's?!?)
3 tobybear freeware/shareware (CandyBox! S1 filter+Hi resonance=Death machine! Deconstructor=Instant creative anarchy)
4 GRM Tools I and II. Pro, Pro, Pro, Stuff. (Freeze and Pitcher are just Ill. That is all that I'll say!).
5 DigitalFishPhones - (Dominion and Endorphin are two of my most-used plugs. At least 4 each per song! - and watch out for the FishFillets, coming soon!)

out!

_________________
algorhythm the contingency ep - out now

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Post by **hubird** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 1:26 pm

Algo, do you know how good the Dominion is compared to the CW SPL Transient designer?
I LOVE the Dominion, but I'm thinking about buying the SPL if there is a significant difference.
Welcom back btw!

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 1:53 pm

heh. hubird - I had a similar question awhile back:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 49&forum=5

well, I say dominion does the job and does it well, and does it for FREE. SPL is a very respected company and might be worth looking into the Trans. Des. if you have $$$ - It is no-contest to me tho'!

(And thanx for welcoming me back. Got home yesterday). Not for long though . . . . leaving again soon!

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:24 pm

On 2002-12-12 13:53, algorhythm wrote:
SPL is a very respected company and might be worth looking into the Trans. Des. if you have $$$ - It is no-contest to me tho'!

Agreed, Dominion is cool, lite and doing the job, and that's good thing. But for really fast response, and surgical precision over transients, SPL is king... You almost can live without compressor with this, almost...

I have the Transient Designer, and it is so good, you can use it even in the master track. To give that tiny litle change in transients which is doing all the difference in the world.

Post by **hubird** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:57 pm

thanks both of you

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 5:34 pm

Call me a fashion-victim, but this will never get onto my PC

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alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:48 pm

oohhhh! spirit you were too good and gentle with them.....

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:53 pm

FASHION VICTIM!

no seriously, that is the ugliest/least useable one. Predatohm and Hematohm are actually quite nice/useable. Mobilohm slightly less so, but the SOUND. . .

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:14 am

I know the Ohm range does have a lot of fans. It'll be interesting to see how their new packaged-product US$79+ marketing strategy goes. A bit of a leap . . .

In the GUI stakes though I think another favourite of yours, Ableton, has an excellent design. Exceptional too for the way everything fits comfortably on a single screen - that's an achievement.

regards,
FV

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:40 am

Most I like the cat...

The classic GUI is more peaceful to me,agreed.
I will look at your outbreak picture instead looking on this Hip Hop crap.

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Post by **hubird** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:37 pm

a bit off topic here, but I was talking about the SPL Transient Designer, compared to the Dominion, see above.

Today a (Christmas?) bell ringed in my head, and I checked my CW email folder and saw that the SPL TD is the latest of the december Advent offers, starting at 23-12, till 29 -12-02.
Makes my decision mutch easier... price will be 100,- € below normal price, making a very nice 179,- € !
Tadaaa

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:28 am

Frank Zappa would have loved ohmforce... for its graphics at least!