HAIL CREAMWARE! Hardware upgrade now possilbe!!!

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 7:42 am

from the creamware NL; anyone of you should know, but anyway...
my comments at the end:

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Special Faith Offer from 01 November to 31 December 2002

Dear CreamWare User

by reason of the 10th anniversary of CreamWare and with regard to the upcoming
X-Mas season we have the pleasure to provide a very special offer to you. Binding
from 01. November you can exchange your existing Pulsar1 System against an Audio
Solution of your choice - at an extremely well calculated price.

You only have to decide, if you're going Pulsar 2 with sicx DSP onboard or the PowerPulsar
with 15 DSP - plus an I/O option you require for latency free production processes.

In addition you get the actual Software SFP 3.1 together with a 24/48 Kanal Mixer, high-quality
Dynamics and Mastering Tools and as a very special bonus the "Attacker" by SPL based on
patented "Differential Envelope Technology TM".

Upgrade Special 1 Hardware/Software Upgrade to Pulsar 2 net EUR 599,00*

Upgrade Special 2 Hardware/Software Upgrade to PowerPulsar 2 net EUR 1.459,00*

Compared to the already reliable X-Mas special you can save choosing the Special 1 over 30%
and more than 500 EUR (incl. VAT) with Special 2 - our sincere thanks for all loyal customers.

*Mentioned prices are net without VAT. Additional charges may apply for transport or installation
services etc. if provided by your Shop/Dealer.

And that's the easy way to get your new system:
*Take your Pulsar1 System to one of the participating shops / dealers
(For further info please ask your national distributor --> http://www.creamware.de/de/links/distributors)

*Shop / dealer has the product of your choice on stock - you can directly in exchange take your new system home
(........and just pay the special Upgrade Price - and we take care of the rest for you).

*Shop / dealer doesn't have the product of your choice on stock - then he will receive the Upgrade after ordering within reasonable time from us.
(You pay after receipt of the Upgrade at the shop / dealer - your CreamWare Partner informs you of about availability).

*Install your new system at home or in your studio - accomplished.

Please note:
*Carefully store your Upgrade bill & receipt. Provided you already purchased additional plugins
throughout the past years for the existing system, please send following documents to us after
having received your new system via fax to ++49 2241 - 59 58 57 -- Subject: Upgrade 2002

--> Dealer's Invoice & Receipt for the Upgrade
--> please add hardware serial numbers of both old + new board
--> invoices for additional Software Plugins
--> your Email Adress

You will receive soon after the referring keys for your new system via Email.
Not applying for features and plugins, which are integrated part of the Upgrade.
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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm seriously thinking to exchange my luna with a pulsar 2 to get 24/48mixer and fx pack 2!!!!! whant to say? price seems reasonable, and the only one thing that comes to my mind is: "does creamware wants to give away all its stocks before entering in the music market with something really new and kick-a*s?"
however... i just decide what will be my cristmas present!

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:39 am

Can you really change the Luna ? It sounds like they're just upgrading the Pulsar 1. If you can upgrade Luna II, I DEFINITELY will.

I'm sure they're just about to release something well hot, but I think I'd rather take advantage of the up and coming cheapness of their existing stuff.

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:43 am

It would be an offer for me if it was only board-to-board exchange (with no additional plugins). I am satisfied with all the plugs I own. For me nothing special.

There were similar offers here in Poland in the '80. If you wanted to buy a kilo of sausage you had to buy additionaly a jam-jar. Without the option you weren't able to buy sausage at all.

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 10:57 am

first of all, excuse the ,multiple post, i had some problems with the connection, and i don't konw wheter my first post was published or not... please john, delete one of the two!

i received TWO mails from creamware, one regarding
pulsar 1 -> pulsar 2 upgrade
and the other regarding
Luna -> pulsar 2 upgrade
(i own both pulsar and luna)
the strange thing is that the price seems the same for both upgrading...

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 12:57 pm

Not too strange, IMO:
Pulsar1 is a 1st generation card w 4 DSP
Luna is a 2nd generation card w 3 DSP...
...so both an be somehow seen as 'same value'.

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 1:04 pm

I would pick the Pulsar 1 any time. 25% more DSP, better I/0 connections (IMO) is to me worth more than the ULLI. But that is me.

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 1:34 pm

On 2002-11-01 12:57, at0mic wrote:
Not too strange, IMO:
Pulsar1 is a 1st generation card w 4 DSP
Luna is a 2nd generation card w 3 DSP...
...so both an be somehow seen as 'same value'.

And what about the software package? STS3000, Mod2, mixers and synths? They are not standard for Pulsar 1 but you could buy them for a nice prioce one day (99 Euros)

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 1:44 pm

These extra soft that came w Pulsar1 will not be free still for the candidate Luna-owner: He does a hardware upgrade, won't get Mod2, STS etc.

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 1:50 pm

That's fair. Peace

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Sir SamPlaire

[ This Message was edited by: samplaire on 2002-11-01 13:52 ]

igge · Post by **igge** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:45 pm

Well, I bought the Pulsar ProPack for my Luna II (yes, it worked) & have since bought the STS3000, so I have the exact same software as those who have a Pulsar II. I'm a bit ambivalent here. The offer is generous, really. But I have no fax so how to get new referring codes I dunno. Better go for the X-mas deal instead, thus I'll have 9 DSPs and more IO.
I allready made up my mind to buy a Gibson Les Paul '56 Gold Top for combined birthday/christmas present, now I don't know to do!! Arrgh!

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 3:42 pm

I don't get it. You have to exchange your pulsar 1 for a pulsar 2, and pay E 599,-, for two extra dsp, while you could buy a Luna with 3 dsp for about E 450,- or a 6 DSP XTC card for 799,-.
What am I missing?

[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2002-11-01 15:46 ]

Post by **garyb** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:48 pm

looks like a good deal all around.don't be mad if it's a little better for some.no hating.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 2:33 am

Hey I'm not "hating", I'm just wondering what the deal is because I don't see it. Which brings me back to my question, what am I missing here? Why should it be "better for some", everybody gets the same stuff don't they?

[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2002-11-02 02:34 ]

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:19 am

Upgrading from Pulsar1 to Pulsar2 makes you pay 300€ perr DSP. That is just about the same price, as when you buy a new Pulsar2 (in expensive Denmark anyway). So you don't get more I/O, but you get ULLI and maybe better software (depending on, what you had already), and you pay the same €/DSP as usual. I would believe, you also get a new waranty!
To some it would be a good deal - not to me, but to some.

Immanuel

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 10:48 am

ok, so what about those "professional dynamics and mastering tools" you get. Do they mean Optimaster and Psy-Q? If you get those for free with it, I'd say it's a pretty good deal, otherwise, well, it wouldn't give me anything I don't have already, (I already have a Powersampler, so I got the ULLI) and you actually pay more for the extra DSP, than you would if you bought it seperately.

[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2002-11-02 10:52 ]

Post by **garyb** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:17 pm

so keep what you got if it works.......

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 5:57 pm

I was going to, I'm just commenting on- and asking a question about the CW offer, do you have a problem with that? (I don't think I said something awful anywhere did I?)

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 7:02 pm

I see what you mean King, it's a price-per-DSP calculation.

I wonder though, from the earlier comment about something new in the works from CW, whether there may be a new board not compatible with Pulsar-I. That could be a reason to try to shift people up from it before they get annoyed that the new board is not compatible.

Pure speculation of course, but would that be a possibility ?

sym90 · Post by **sym90** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:54 pm

Another good reason for Xmas offer could be that Creamware worked a lot with new SFP 3.1c with a few margin. Now with this low price, and with their software v3.1c that runs quite perfectly , they need to make more $$$ .

That could be the reason of the offer : to sell more cards so that they can gain some $$$ for the big software-work on sfp3.1c (that they did with no speculation for existing pulsar users...).

regards
sYm

Post by **garyb** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:55 pm

makes sense...

king of snake,i'm not mad at you,you've done nothing insulting.my apologies if i've insulted you.......