ASUS MOTHERBOARD SERILEL

One2Waziru · Post by **One2Waziru** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:04 am

Went to a shop a shop this afternoon,planned to buy a P 2.4 ,a matrox g 550 and
an asus motherboard,but idid not because I came out more confused then I went in:
INTEL ,thats for sure,matrox ok ,ddr or rimm,
The good nan told me to wait a few weeks for anew system coming out with serilel instead of ide for the hard drives.
So.....P4B533 or P4T533 or wait for serilel????????????
THANKS.

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 7:38 am

serilel ? you mean "serial ATA"
it will require a HD compatible to take advantage of this....
i think p4B533+pentium IV+matrox is good.
ram = DDR 333 (i'm not sure it's DDR RAM 2100 or 2700)?

One2Waziru · Post by **One2Waziru** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:17 am

Thanks for the reply,
But I just wonder if it is not better to wait
for an asus motherboard with serial ata?
The ones with intel chipset will be comming out in a couple of weeks, the ones with sis are already on the market.
So...

Post by **garyb** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:35 am

AND wait for the drives.(and pay for the drives)ata100 is fast enuff for audio already.many people can record 24 tracks at a time while playing back 24(see the vdat thread)if you can wait tho-no harm done ......

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:58 am

New stuff is being released all the time. If you wait for that then they'll be something else to wait for. Don't worry about it, go with what you know.

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:55 am

serial ATA seems to me as a variation of IDE, I mean, 7200 rpm is a max you can get now.
If you want a real difference, get an scsi Ultra 160 controlleur with a IBM HD 10.000 or 15.000 rpm (that's what i look forward to get). it'sd very expensive but you get THE current fasest technology for hard drive.
For serial ATA, i know the asus card but it wasn't clear if it is compatble with my old IDE, and i understood you have to buy a disk for taking advantage of it.
I get 48/50 tracks (mono) on pentium 3 1ghz 512 mb ram, on ide drives 7200 rpm (maxtor, cause it's the only ones which didn't gave me a single problem of HD crash...)

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spacef · Post by **spacef** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:02 am

i add that theres a limied serie of hard disk with 8 mb RAM and it's said to have much better transfer rate than usual ide HD (wich have 1, 2 or 4 mb ram). I think it's Western Digital JJB serie, 80 GB, 7200 rpm.

One2Waziru · Post by **One2Waziru** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:59 pm

Thanks guys ,
O.K.let's forget about the serial ata,
Do we as pulsarians need raid,
Can you help me to make my final choice?
ddr266or333 or rambus
asus p4b 533 e or p4b533 or p4t533c or p4t533.

Micha · Post by **Micha** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:19 am

Asus P4PE with DDR333.

Post by **garyb** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:27 am

no,you don't need raid.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:01 am

I vote DDR too

w_ellis · Post by **w_ellis** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:24 am

I've just got a new PC with a Gigabyte GA-8PE667 Ultra using PC2700. I've only got as far as installing XP and SFP on it, but everything's looking okay so far. I'll post full specs and any good/bad experiences as a reply to this post:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... orum=19&28
as soon as I've got it up and running properly.

When I was choosing motherboards, it was either this one, the Asus P4PE or similar Abit board.

Cheers,
Will

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:40 am

those boards with serial ATA are already out (P4PE-SRL), which seem to be even better than previous asus boards (edited) for other things than srlATA (533 support etc)[] . it's expensive. may be wait a bit until it's available to you

But i don't think there'll be compatible HD before another few weeks/monthes

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fransje · Post by **fransje** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:44 am

I ordered an Asus P4PE & P4 2.53 (533mhz, fsb < whatever that means) & 1x512 333mhz DDR & 450 watt power suply

I will let you all know how it runs! I think I will get it next week. I am guessing it will run just fine

Round1 · Post by **Round1** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:38 pm

Yes, please post your findings on this combo (P4PE & P4/2.53)......I'm looking at the same upgrade within the next few weeks.

Regards....Dave

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:23 pm

There will always be people to tell you to wait for something new. And I do see, that the switch to SATA is one of the more unusual ones (been some years, since we changed cables for our drives right (and I don't realy count going 80 for being a change)).

On the other hand however. If you wait, and get the very newest technology right as it comes out, you are being a tester. There will often be a period of time, after, the release, where there will be a huge work going on to improve this technology. Often, you will the first motherboards with new generation technology comming in new revisions - with improved or even new features.

I in most cases prefer to buy something, that has been on the market for a couple of months. But that is just to sooth my temper.

Immanuel

zzero · Post by **zzero** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:04 am

Serillel ATA also exists, it's from abit.
http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/e ... en_0208161

don't forget most mainbords that are now available with SATA controllers onboard aren't real native SATA controllers and only support SATA v1.0 (+-max of 133mb/s so no performance boost over ata133)

true native serial ata controllers which support higher data rates are only available from next year when SATA harddisks also will be available.

BTW those limited 8mb cache drives are becomming more and more mainstream disks, maxtor now has a line of ata133 drives with 8mb cache, liquid bearings and silent drive technology

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:24 am

i have read that the expanded cache is useless for audio/video, because it is a cache for files which are accessed often by the disk, and with a max of 8 mb... So it brings nothing for audio/video...
any other opinion ?

zzero · Post by **zzero** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:33 am

On 2002-10-30 08:24, spacef wrote:
i have read that the expanded cache is useless for audio/video, because it is a cache for files which are accessed often by the disk, and with a max of 8 mb... So it brings nothing for audio/video...
any other opinion ?

normaly a disks buffer is used for all the files (how many times the files are accessed doesn't matter they always use the buffer) which u acces on that specific disk.

In theory u should be able to write more data to the disk at a faster speed.

However I do not know if it would give any real advantages or performace boost in audio use haven't tested that yet myself.

maybe anybody in here knows more of the performance of these disks in audio.

Submarine · Post by **Submarine** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:41 pm

http://usa.asus.com/mb/socket478/p4pE/overview.htm#