symphonic flute tune is back

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Wed May 29, 2002 9:34 am

This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Folk <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Mixers Ken Suguro for URB02 _____________________________________ This is the first movement of the introduction to the stage perfrormance. It's a totally beefed up version of the tune I made earlier.

The tune is supposed to pick up in pace after this, with taikos coming in and the tempo rising up to 140 bpm or so. (sort of like a matsuri, or festival) The dance will be a combination of aikido katas and other "oriental" moves.

The flute still has some mistakes in it so don't mind them.

All comments welcome! I'll add that the reverb I used is masterverb. Sounds pretty nice doesn't it?

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Wed May 29, 2002 9:55 am

And my fingers are becoming hard from playing too much biwa. (that mandolin-ish sound you hear) First time I ever touched such an instrument. hehe.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed May 29, 2002 9:56 am

Wow! The octave harmonic on the flute is nice! This is the best sound I've heard from you so far. I can hear every intrument clearly. That sho is a nice touch too.(I hope it's a sho

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Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Wed May 29, 2002 10:04 am

Absolutely beautiful Ken! Again, the melody comes to my heart.

Don’t like the sounds you’re using for the strings, too artificial. I would like a much natural sound, particularly the attack of the strings are a bit rough to my test. I may be wrong, but this is my impression.

I’ve heard sort of a pipe, I would like it to be panned to left or write, not completely, but with preference to one side or the other. The sound is too strong cos the song is nevertheless rather soft. Very nice. Post it when you have the definitive version to have a listen.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Wed May 29, 2002 10:08 am

bzzzzt. I think that's the hichiriki you're talking about. Sho is used throughout the other tune with the heavy drums. I hate my sho though. It smells bad and since sho is like a harmonica, you breat out, and IN! So I have to breath in that wierd smell (smells like something from an attic) everytime! yick!

But anyway, there's really something different about this tune.. the melody? It's quite funny ya know, cuz I spend all these years studying a bunch of technical stuff.. mechanics of music and all that. And it turns out that something THIS simple, is so far my biggest composition project.

And the simplest things, are sometimes the hardest things.. and maybe that's where experience and long studies are playing an important role. Dunno, this is just one of those once every few year tunes where the tune kind of teaches me. And that feeling, is sort of what goes into my flute.. ah, I'm starting to sound "artsy". hehe. But obviously, this tune is pulling me into such a realm. Simple things are cool, once in a little while.

Simplest is the most complex? Or the other way around? Man, I'm really getting into this "wa" business, I'm starting to sound like a monk.

[ This Message was edited by: kensuguro on 2002-05-29 11:10 ]

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Wed May 29, 2002 11:13 am

yeah, yer right. Strings is always a drag. I'm using minimal "expression" control type modulation, but do you think there's a better way of doing it other than spending lots of time tweaking the volume curves? I don't have a set of good samples to use so when it comes to strings, I can write the parts but don't seem to be able to implement it just the way I'd imagined it to sound. Maybe a mod2 patch with envelepe followers controlling a lowpass filter? Not sure.
But I don't want to go as far as becoming obsessed with the reality of the strings because it's very easy to become so. Though in this case, an increase in quality wouldn't hurt at all.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Wed May 29, 2002 3:06 pm

I agree Ken, the matter is that NATURAL it’s probably the best thing for the nature of the song. But if there is a NICE sound, even if it is synthesised thought the V2, well… the important thing is that it sounds fine.

This, of course, if you don’t have a good sample collection of classical strings sounds. You could probably mix them together and perhaps, you end up building a nicer, richer and most of all wormer sound as the background for your melody. The sound of the flute itself is fantastic, despite of the little mistakes. I insist in getting a better sounding strings, cos you rely on those strings completely for your flute to be there, present and flouting… freely. This is what I think.

eliam · Post by **eliam** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:09 pm

Wow, man, this is huge! Truly, the strings don't bother me at all! They could be richer and warmer, that's true, but they provide an adequate background where the rest is laid... IMHO, you cannot get good results on string arrangements without playing with the volume and velocity on almost each note. Furthermore, you must assing your volume and velocity as lowpass filter modulators, as I already mentioned to you. In this way, your softer notes sound also darker.
Nice work, Ken, this music is really something!