TOPIC for first opinions (SFP 3.1)

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Tue May 07, 2002 11:57 am

Come on guys !

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Tue May 07, 2002 12:04 pm

Well the graphics are faster, not sure if they are accelerated, but no more alpha blending making everything seem quicker.

The Live Bar is slick, you can load a synth and it will automatically be connected to the mixer. Quicker than manually routing yourself in many cases. THe new Shift-N is a nice touch.

24bit WDM, 64 channels (XP). This should hopefully make Sonar users happy.

Software packages. I think this should also make people happy as well, a key for each software package, with SCOPE/SP users now getting everything ... more later!

remixme · Post by **remixme** » Tue May 07, 2002 2:45 pm

Remind me what the excitement was about..... Just being sarcastic.
It seems very sleek, in the readme in suggests installing the scope/sp option if you have devices bought from the creamware shop stating that it will only install the software you have keys for, I imported my keys file, (great idea cw btw) and let it install however it installed all the stuff I didn't have keys for as well. This makes xtc mode a drag.
My advice is to select the package option closest to your own and manually copy the files over as dicussed in the readme.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Tue May 07, 2002 3:04 pm

Some people use Sonar which doesn't support ASIO (even if Cubase, Logic, and FruityLoops all do). Now they have 24bit WDM-ks w/ 64 channels.

Some people need GSIF for Win2k/XP. Now they have it.

Many people spent "hours getting their first sound" from their card, because the routing window confused them. Now there is Live Bar which does simple connections for you.

Some people complained of slow graphics. The new version now no longer has alpha blending (see-through devices when you drag them). This speeds up the graphics a little bit and is a nice change.

The OS Mode seems much more solid than it was under 3.01. I run in this mode now.

I believe they spent a good deal of time with CopyProtectionViolation errors, hopefully even us dual users will be happy. I haven't tried the release version yet (server bogged!) so I'm curious about this one myself.

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Tue May 07, 2002 6:01 pm

Have you seen the new prices in CW-shop ?
Elements of ProPack are worth 694 EUR now !

Mixer Pack. I ---- 149 EUR
Effects Pack. II -- 198 EUR
Modular 2 -------- 198 EUR
STS-3000 -------- 149 EUR
============================
------------------------ 694 EUR

[ This Message was edited by: darolek on 2002-05-07 19:05 ]

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Tue May 07, 2002 7:17 pm

I hear grown men crying their hearts out...

Kim.

JoeKa · Post by **JoeKa** » Tue May 07, 2002 8:07 pm

I´ll wait some more days before downloading, cause the 7.something kps I just got are just not acceptable for a 115MB-file... btw, I´m happy the way everything works right at the moment, and I´m not keen on re-editing all my projects once again while I´m still working on them. But I´ll add my two cents as soon as I have done the update.
So long, Joe

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Wed May 08, 2002 12:08 am

On 2002-05-07 19:01, darolek wrote:
Have you seen the new prices in CW-shop ?
Elements of ProPack are worth 694 EUR now !
Mixer Pack. I ---- 149 EUR
Effects Pack. II -- 198 EUR
Modular 2 -------- 198 EUR
STS-3000 -------- 149 EUR
============================
------------------------ 694 EUR

at creamware are really bastards! 149 for mixer pack 1....

(
they should review their price policies...

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 2:08 am

check the new midi mergers

Michaelj · Post by **Michaelj** » Wed May 08, 2002 4:09 am

I got it now,
it took only 7 hours on dsl.

a tip!!!!!!!

you who have modems or only
get errors,
try the old way get it from CW on CD or from a local dealer by post !!!!
it only take 1 day or 2.
and you have waited months for the upgrade.
so insted of trying and trying,
get on the phone and let them send it to you!!

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Wed May 08, 2002 5:08 am

Seems there is still alpha blending if you use "classic" mode. But it looks really good so far. The installation was a breeze on win2K here. The import keys is choice! Lots more exploring to go yet though!

musquash · Post by **musquash** » Wed May 08, 2002 5:11 am

i already found a bug:
i tried to delete all I/O's except of two at the same time but i received an error message. deleting just some of them at a time worked though..

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed May 08, 2002 6:36 am

Not hearing that high-pitched squelch from my ADAT source when switching projects is definitely welcome!

remixme · Post by **remixme** » Wed May 08, 2002 6:53 am

Well its not perfect, but its pretty damn good, the xtc mode, which I never tried before seems excellent.
The live bar is a good idea, need for screen real estate.
There are a nigling bugs though I get a class exeception when loading mod2 I thing its to do with auto connecting. mod2 works fine its just annoying.
I think when v3.11b comes out this will be the must have software for creamware users.

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Wed May 08, 2002 11:02 am

I just noticed that 'Sequencer Remote' still (vs Pulsar 2.xx/3.0x) send-out nothing while you hit 'REC button'

CW - shame on you !!!

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Wed May 08, 2002 12:54 pm

Ops! Sorry, I didn’t realise there was already a thread open about it…

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Wed May 08, 2002 1:47 pm

On 2002-05-08 12:02, darolek wrote:
I just noticed that 'Sequencer Remote' still (vs Pulsar 2.xx/3.0x) send-out nothing while you hit 'REC button'
CW - shame on you !!!

Aren't ALL the buttons on that Remote assignable?

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Wed May 08, 2002 3:17 pm

On 2002-05-08 14:47, subhuman wrote:
Aren't ALL the buttons on that Remote assignable?

All but not 'REC button'

Sub - just do simple test with 'Remote Seq' and 'Midi Monitor' ...

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Wed May 08, 2002 3:35 pm

Sorry to break the conversation.. just something peculiar I realized. The "live bar" thing seems to HAVE to stay on top, even if I turn stay on top off. The people at CW must have been very happy with the live bar idea. hehe.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 4:39 pm

Does anyone have no pop-ups on
-SB404
-Wav Dest?

Wav dest won't work here...