Scope platform as a Foh-mixer. Do or don´t?

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Kvist
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Scope platform as a Foh-mixer. Do or don´t?

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Hi folks!
New member here, but looong time lurker of this forum! There are some very clever people here, that´s for sure :)

Anyway, as topic says, been toying with the idea to use Scope v5.1 as a kickass digital mixing desk. I have actually done it before to some extent, I used to own a Pulsar II 6 dsp card, and used it to run monitors for my band (5 piece band all running stereo in-ears). This was actually quite amazing, it sounded really good and i had still some dsp left. I used the asio dest module out to Cubase, and recorded every rehearsal and gig we did with total flexibility. Long story short, we ended up buying a Behringer X32 console so that everybody can control their own mix using iPads etc. The Pulsar-rig wasn´t used anymore, and i ended up selling it :(

Anyway, to the topic: I´m also a Foh-engineer for a couple of local bands, and i´m tired of hauling around a big and bulky analog mixing desk. I have considered buying a digital desk of the "new era", but then the idea struck me to hook up with the good ol´ Scope again. So, my idea was to get hold of some of the old cards to use as a digital mixer with absolute flexibility and near-zero latency ( I was considering an xite-1D as well, but the amount of i/o is a bit lacking at only 16 channels of adat, and the holy A16 with Z-link is the hen-teeth´s of the century i presume ? ). I mean, in Scope you have some amazing sounding eq´s, dynamics and reverbs, and the possibility to do virtual soundchecks etc etc. Plus, a good amount of i/o if using 3 cards cascaded.
A plan is to get a 24" (or bigger/smaller) touchscreen and use that to control faders and stuff in Scope, and maybe throw in a Bcf2000 as a physical fader-pack. I was also thinking about running a vnc-client on my iPad to control Scope wirelessly from the crowd/stage.

So, my question to you professors out there is: Should i do this or not ? Are there any traps to fall into ? And has it been done before ? I´m always thinking about computers and their reliability, but after all, a digital mixer is no more than a computer with some mic pres and some faders (in my opinion anyway).

Sorry for a very long first ever post :)

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Kvist
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Re: Scope platform as a Foh-mixer. Do or don´t?

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sure, i've done this and many others have. the system works great, BUT...
you will want something with an actual knob to grab in an emergency and if you adjust with a mouse, you will need to be careful and not be a person who is easily confused. using a control surface is great, but it's really only practical for volume faders.

z-link A-16s are easy to come by, but you have to poke around a bit. with an XITE, you also have 2 mic pres and two analog inputs as well as a stereo aes/ebu input. unless you're doing shows for 5-700 people or more, i doubt you'll need more than the 16 ADAT, and the 6 other inputs. as you said, the PCI cards are also a choice and more inputs are certainly possible there.

i think the bottom line is that if you know what you are doing, i can work very well and it will certainly sound superlative! if you aren't well organized and don't test and setup everything ahead of time, it could also be one hell of a disaster.
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