New horizons

[Roland Kuit]

Dear forum,

I've switched to Kyma and the Pacarana.
Despite the awesome Modular sound of the Xite-1.
I have to explore new horizons in sound design.

I still have a whole bunch of patches I would like to share with you and I will sort them out as soon as possible.
About this forum, just a big THANKS!
Thank you all for your support and taking time explore my thoughts on Modular Synthesis.
And your thoughts!
Gary, Dante, Kensuguru, Faxi, fra77x, Hubird, jksuperstar, yaya, erminardi, jhulk, Immanuel ,nestor, Mr Arkadin and many others! (except Anabele, she's only cooking - but no food for thoughs) to name a few.

I will drop by from time to time but I can't patch the Xite-1 any more. It found a good lovin' home in Canada.
I will explain my new horizons to you.
As a composer I'm going to write for acoustic instruments again.
Like with MAX/MSP, the Pacarama hardware and Kyma program can be used as a sound and composition world.
I was asked by Renee Baker(http://reneebakercomposer.com/) of the Chicago Sinfonietta Chamber Ensemble for a work for viola and electronics.

As you see, new ways.
ps: If you like to know more about this system, just ask.

[Immanuel]

Enjoy your next journey

[Mr Arkadin]

Well glad you are still around here occasionally. Still following your electronic poineers thread.

[kensuguro]

Really curious how Pacarana works for you. After my scope system died, my choice was between xite-1 and Pacarana, but still haven't made my decision. Kyma stuff is difficult to assess since I don't know a single person who uses it, nor is there an easy way to go demo one myself. (and you can't really just "demo" something that deep and get a sense) But anyway, it's funny since Nord Mod we seem to end up in a similar pool. Maybe I'll run in to you in the Kyma circle some day.

[garyb]

all the best to you Roland!

[jksuperstar]

Funny, when I moved on from the Nord G2, I had balanced the XITE-1 vs. Kyma also.

Ultimately, I chose XITE, for the balance it offered between complete studio & instruments (ready to use), Virtual Modular Synth (that offers complexity way beyond Nord does), the SDK, and integration with a host PC.

Kyma offered uncompromising sound design techniques, incredible support direct from the developers/owners, but wasn't the studio-in-a-box I was also looking for.

[hubird]

Good luck Roland.
zal wel lukken denk ik

[Roland Kuit]

Thanks all!
XITE-1 vs. Kyma.
After discontinuing the NMG2 this was the question of many NMG2 users.
Both have their intrinsic qualities.
I didn't stop to be a NMG2 user. I even bought a few spare ones.

[kensuguro]

Hey Roland,

I remember during my last research into Kyma, the big turn off was that I needed to get a firewire IO box, and also needed firewire going into the computer, and that my signal would go from DAW->audio IO out->firewire IO in->pacarana->kyma. (very expensive loop back) Symbolic Sound website still says so, but is that still really the case?

[Roland Kuit]

To use the Xite-1 I had to buy an expensive eCard for my laptop.
A FireWire card is nothing compared to this.
A 2nd hand FW interface is quickly found. I found a TC Impact Twin cheap.
Also you can ask Symbolic Sound to buy one of your choice.
They will only charge you when they succeed making a driver for it.

[fra77x]

I'm not sure kensuguro is talking about money expense. I think he talks about latency issues.

[Roland Kuit]

I was combining both

the big turn off was that I needed to get a firewire IO box?

I haven't DAW'd yet.
PS: I don't want to defend or attack either system.
I hope that we can take it clean.

[fra77x]

I think its normal to support the platform you are currently interested on. Each one has pros and cons but also each one is unique and a world of sound on its own. I hope you will find some new unexplored places to make some research on. Good luck!

[dawman]

Say hello to Carla for me. I have been a fan of hers since Champaigne, Ill. and Symbolics beginning back in the '90s.
Please let me know how well the realtime stuff is going with the Paca and new DSP chips.
It's the only other piece of gear I would want besides another rack mounted analog Euro style.

Cheers and thanks again for everything..

[Roland Kuit]

Thanks Dawman, I will do.
Scratching the surface for a few days now, I think this is the perfect set up.
Years back I was thinking "Why not Reaktor in a hardware box?".
Symbolic Sound did. This is Reaktor and more.
The software doesn't look smart. Typically Mac
But don't be mistaken by this.

Some scratching the surface pics:

[Roland Kuit]

Two more:

[Roland Kuit]

After a few weeks scratching the surface of this, here some music with the Kyma X/Pacarana:
"Etude Violinesque":
https://soundcloud.com/roland-kuit/etude-violinesque

"Rajlich Rebits I - III":
https://soundcloud.com/roland-kuit/sets ... bits-i-iii

[dawman]

Nice....
I was A/B ing the Apollo DSP rack with Scope FX and found there's not much difference in quality, but their development teams are 24/7, then again so are ours in Modular, where one actually needs to be IMHO for FX creation and synths, etc.
The SS Paca on a laptop sure looks sweet, I wonder if Scope and Kyma X could play alongside of each other.
Still have never heard a Harley /Lion morph done so well from chips and code...that one sold me years ago, but real time was far away still in '99.

[Roland Kuit]

Hi Dawman,

I like the RAW sound of the Modular IV.
The Pacarana, or the TC Electronics DA/AD converters, sounds more sophisticated.
The RT processing, back then the Capibara, has improved beyond comparison.
The processing power of the Pacarana fits my needs well.
Few times I kicked it over the limit but then I could find ways to rearrange things.

ATM, I've been asked by cutting edge NY/Chicago performers to write pieces for them.
So what you hear on my Soundcloud is research for this.
We want to give concerts in NY September 2014. All with live use of the Pacarana.

December 2014/January 2015 I will be in Stockholm as a composer in the residence and lecturer at EMS.
There I will be doing a piece with their Serge modular analogue synthesiser and my Pacarana.

[Roland Kuit]

As I wrote before, I want to compose more for a acoustic instrument-electronics combination.

For example:


One Piece for Two Imaginary Piano's:
https://soundcloud.com/roland-kuit/one- ... iry-pianos