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Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:59 am
by Wrighty
Good evening everybody.

My names mark, iv just recently bought a second hand sonic core/creamware dsp pci soundcard with version 4 software. Basically I have no manual with it and I have not a clue on how to set it up on my pc.
Iv just had a new pc built and I have cubase 4, kontact, sony sound forge, etc etc i have no idea on how to set it up/ sinc in with all my software as iv got not manual.

Is there anybody that has a PDF version of the manual I need, or anyone could tell me how to set it up.

Thank you very much

Mark

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:09 pm
by dante
Manuals are here:

ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manual/english/

What card do you have?

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:09 pm
by Wrighty
dante wrote:Manuals are here:

ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manual/english/

What card do you have?
I don't know how would I check

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:54 pm
by garyb
when the software is installed, the manual is under the "?"

it's not the kind of manual that says "do this, do that". it's assumed that you have some idea of how a hardware studio works. Scope works like hardware. a really good site to get you going is here:
http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_01/cubase.htm

a Scope card is not really a soundcard, rather it's a collection of gear. how you use and connect that gear is up to you. in Scope on the live bar, the smaller window with "file" "set" "?" at the top, there is a registry window found in the "set" menu. this would tell you what card you have. you can also count the large dsp chips on the card.

here's some advice on setting up your computer to work with a Scope card:
http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31345

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:44 pm
by dante
Wrighty wrote:
dante wrote:Manuals are here:
ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manual/english/
What card do you have?
I don't know how would I check
@garyb says, you can count the number of SHARC chips ( commonly referred to as DSP chips) -

3 DSP chips = LUNA
4 DSP chips = PULSAR 1
6 DSP chips = PULSAR 2
14 DSP chips = SCOPE PRO

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:58 am
by Wrighty
dante wrote:
Wrighty wrote:
dante wrote:Manuals are here:
ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manual/english/
What card do you have?
I don't know how would I check
@garyb says, you can count the number of SHARC chips ( commonly referred to as DSP chips) -

3 DSP chips = LUNA
4 DSP chips = PULSAR 1
6 DSP chips = PULSAR 2
14 DSP chips = SCOPE PRO

Decided to just take a pic..

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Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:54 am
by garyb
Luna. 3dsp.

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:38 pm
by dante
On only 3 DSP - options are a bit limited. I'd probably mix inside Cubase down to stereo then run that to Scope for some mastering - perhaps PSY-Q (like an Aural Exciter) and a compressor, and if that didn't fit at 48 khz, I'd probably run at 44.1 khz and/or higher latency to get more out of the card.

I'm hoping to build up some more manual references in the next Scoperise (the hitfoundry link garyb posted). For example, there's some I/O and setup info in my manuals that I haven't found @ sonic-core ftp, but I'll have to ask permission first.

Assuming you've installed the Scope software (have you done that? ) - there's some stuff about Cubase in here :

ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manu ... ording.pdf

And some stuff about routing and I/O (using the Live Bar) here :

ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manu ... iveBar.pdf

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:44 pm
by Wrighty
Thank you all for your replys

Dante, iv installed the software but need to learn to set everything up..

One question I have is, in my computer I have no other soundcard apart from the sonic core which is installed, problem is I'm not getting any sound at all coming through the speakers. Everything's pluged in and audio properties say the sonic cores working properly so do I have to run another soundcard to get sound????

Thank you everyone for your help.

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:38 pm
by dante
You probably need to set up a project in Scope which connects the Windows wav output to your scope hardware outputs.

This can be done with the default project which can startup whenever you start your PC. That would, for example, route sound from your internet browser to your speakers as long as Scope was running with the project loaded.

I do this frequently - eg browse internet sound effects sites looking for dog barks, glass breaking sounds to put into my Cubase tracks. So you dont need to use another soundcard to do that.

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:58 pm
by mausmuso
I assume Mark, you have the key file from Sonic Core?
You need that before you get SCOPE working.
Hang in there, btw it is worth it.
regards
maus

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:20 pm
by Wrighty
Dante, I will try that and feedback later. One thing I did notice when I double click scope platform icon to load up,when program starts speakers start the hissing sound but still no sound.

Mausmuso, when I bought the card it came with loads of different software, when I first started the installation of the software it asked me for key file and after I had a choice of selecting the home package, or professional package, I choose the home one and imported the key file from the software disc.

Cheers

Re: Sonic core soundcard setup

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:12 am
by mausmuso
Hi Mark,
Thsi might be worth a try,
Load Scope
In the Routing Window, goto the File menu and Click Open (project)
it will ask whether you want to save the current project, say no if dont want to save it
Now in the Directory that opens you might see a directory called 'Examples'
Inside this directory is a number of example projects - one of them might be called ASIO EZ Playback (or the like)
Load that and see what you get.
If all goes to plan you should now be able to load Cubase and play back sound
You might have to select SCOPE ASIO in Cubase, but you'll get the idea.
regards
maus