Insipe Air 88 Note Controller w/ Built In Creamware ASX Card

[dawman]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... W-i404QEBw

Very interested in these products, they are dirt cheap here in Wisconsin.
In other words, like everything else we see from China, but disposable gear is still cheaper than expensive gear nobody can or will fix after 1 year warranty.

Their controllers look great, very functional, and their manual is 84Megs. and very well documented using the infamous M Audio Global Channel tricks, snapshots, etc.
Anyone ever heard the ASX cards before...?
These would be great to have as a back up if the PC dies, ot the XITE-1 takes a dump.
I already have Solaris set to use a Bank of sounds at 44.1k and Analog I/Os, the SE-1x is bypassed with a merger.
These were my thoughts, but I never remember seeing or hearing about the Creamware ASX cards.....Is this another weak Frank Hund Product..?

[jhulk]

there plugiators asx cards exactly the same

some one has cloned them and they are being sold by a number of chinese manufactureres

crane song is one that i know of in uk

they are actually dearer than the plugiator equivelent

theres also another company selling them

they come with the same plugs as the plugiator

but just the basic 4

you still need to buy the extra ones fromn plugiator

[HUROLURA]

I thought about it already, especially because this one has 2 synth-slots ( so maybe it would be possible to have 2 Xsynth boards but nothing clear about it).

I tried the keyboard during last Musikmesse but I was disappointed as the control elements feel wacky and I didn't like the keyboard (similar to M-Audio Venom for example).

Maybe ESI K.On could have been better as it could support up to 4 Waldorf Nano synth slots (which I guess is the same format as ASX board).

I do have one plugiator unit here (with ASX inside) and it is nice to have to play a few Creamware sounds from a small box during holliday for example. But as I got a few ASB, Noah Ex and Scope PCI systems to compliment my Xite-1, I do not use it that much except under such circumstances ...

[dawman]

Thanks, Brotha' Man Hurolura,
You saved me from making a mistake.
I am quite happy with my Privia XS3-S, Livid Code and BCF2000.
I keep thinking about a good lightweight, all in one board. As usual the Caveats outweigh the benefits.
FWIW this Privia is a great 4 Zone controller, and the action is damn good IMHO.
But then again, I am not too whiney about action. All of my childhood years I did recitals and we never got warm ups on the Piano, although being the little bastard I was, I would sneak in and play the Piano whever I could find a stage with a backdoor where I could jam the locking mechanism with a huge wad of gum.
But still, my point is I can spend a few minutes on any electronic keyboard and get its feel, but do prefer some resistance in the keybed.
So thanks for your on site critique....

FWIW the very worst action ever made on the planet for a keyboard, were those God awful spring/plastic keys on Oberheim synths. I still remember springs being disconnected some nights, and to workaround that nonsense meant more portamento so I could glide over the note, as it was adjusted in realtime by hand.

Thanks Guys............Saved me from spending money this Christmas on junk....

[HUROLURA]

If you have a chance to give it a try, just go ahead.
Just my personnal feeling here back from the same day I first tryed the Solaris (best keyboard I tryed there) so maybe my requirements were a bit high ...

By the way, I just really tested the 61 notes synth type keyboard but ont the hammer action 88 notes type... From what I remember, the 88 notes type was better but I am not a piano touch fan for synth so maybe not so relevant then ...

[ehasting]

I find this piece of gear rather interesting! It has great support for main stage and receptor.. however i dont know how its being programmed for other stuff (like scope), but it seems like a true performer piece!

http://www.infiniteresponse.com/vkeybd.html

[jhulk]

if you ever get a chance to get a quasimidi cyber6 then get it

it has 8 zones 32 midi outs and 2 special arpegs that do wavesequencing chording volume chopping filter chopping

it has a neat 8 track sequencer with swing from mpc

fatar keyboard synth type

not the crappy types of today

i use it with scope all the time as its great for noodling with with out using the onboard sequencers of modular

and you can make massive sound scapes with the arpeg as tyou can have all 32 midi chanels playing at once making a wavestaion type wavesequence from any number of synths

[dawman]

The VAZ77 is the finest controller available, they were by the S|C booth in 2009 and we demo'd them then. They weren;t very good yet but we could tell having the SHARC DSP processor and 0-16000 MIDI Spec 2 for Velocity is far superioir than this meger 0-128 crap manufacturers keep regurgitating every decade.
Last year I played them again at NAMM and they are just so far ahead for portability and graded action+ control, but the dummies only have 77 keys............??

CYber 6 sounds abouve the comprehension of my peanut sized brain, but that thing looks awesome.

I guess my cheap ass Privia XS3 w/ the seperate controllers is the right price, the right weight, etc.
But I am always looking


Thanks Brotha' Men.......

[jhulk]

kluas schulzt uses 2 of them for his live sessions

the lucky git was given them by quasimidi

along with a whole wall of synths from them

wolfgang palm uses one to with his free vsti pleq2

the cyber6 and the scope modular are just great as i leave all the sequence and controller stuff to it

and just make massive modular patches with just osc and filters

[dante]

I guess my cheap ass Privia XS3 w/ the seperate controllers is the right price, the right weight, etc.
But I am always looking

My dad was taught piano by his mum who whacked him with a ruler if he played a wrong note, then he taught piano to school kids after WW2. So around '06 I picked the Privia PX3 out for him at music shop, figuring he'd appreciate the authentic weighted action. A few months later he said he didnt like the action coz the keys had a thump. Led me to the conclusion real pianos were much less weighted than what they build in as fake to these plastic ones.

[garyb]

even worse than wieght, the actions don't always move correctly, or don't have the weight in the correct part of the action. i think that's what your dad hated.