Distortion recording Wav source during realtime mix down

[sodiumcycle]

I am routing the mixer master to wav source and monitoring through analog source (also connected to mixer master.) The audio sounds fine coming out of my monitors but is distorted in the recording (levels are good and not overloading in the recording application.)

I use outboard synths and effects in this project and need to mix down in real time. I thought it might be a disk performance problem but 44.1 16bit is also distorted. I've also tested "wav source" recording in more than one application and get the same result.

This is the way I typically mix down and haven't seen the issue before. (Scope 4.5, 2 Luna 2 cards, 1 Pulsar, Scope is master)

[bosone]

why you are not using ASIO modules?

[siriusbliss]

I was never able to determine if this was a bug or not (and haven't checked in V5), but a while ago I switched over to analog out for monitoring and SPDIF for mastering, and recorded off the SMPTE (using Samplitude).

Also, if you have an external clock source, then try switching Scope to slave and see what happens. Let your recording DAW (or whatever) be the 'master'.

And yes, you could try ASIO, or upgrade to Scope 5 and use VDAT

Greg

[garyb]

wav modules are ok here. could you upload a sample of the distortion? maybe it will lend a clue...

[siriusbliss]

This is the way I typically mix down and haven't seen the issue before. (Scope 4.5, 2 Luna 2 cards, 1 Pulsar, Scope is master)

Also, which mixer are you using?

Greg

[voidar]

The wave drivers need additional buffering. This might be what's happening. They also default to 16 bit (this surprice med), so you really should experiment with the ASIO protocol instead.

[sodiumcycle]

why you are not using ASIO modules?

ASIO was used by my DAW. Since only 1 ASIO application can be opened at a time I have been using the wav source in a second application to record mixes.

But it seems I can route the creamware mixer outs back into another ASIO stereo pair, record it in the DAW application, and export that stereo track.

[sodiumcycle]

I was never able to determine if this was a bug or not (and haven't checked in V5), but a while ago I switched over to analog out for monitoring and SPDIF for mastering, and recorded off the SMPTE (using Samplitude).

Also, if you have an external clock source, then try switching Scope to slave and see what happens. Let your recording DAW (or whatever) be the 'master'.

And yes, you could try ASIO, or upgrade to Scope 5 and use VDAT

Greg

I set Scope as slave and I'm still getting the distortion.

Can you explain how to record via SMPTE? That might allow me to record the mix directly in to Cooledit.

[sodiumcycle]

wav modules are ok here. could you upload a sample of the distortion? maybe it will lend a clue...

I'll try to upload a snippet of the noise. It sounds like buffer under-runs to me.

BTW, I'm using the Luna 16 channel mixer and am working at the lowest latency setting at 48khz.

[iSiStOy]

But it seems I can route the creamware mixer outs back into another ASIO stereo pair, record it in the DAW application, and export that stereo track.

That's what most of us are doing, I suppose... You can also separately route every track you mix in Scope to the Asio through mixer direct outputs and record in separate audio tracks to be mixed afterwards, if needed.

[garyb]

smpte is merely a way to get film and audio synced. it is a timestamp. it won't help.

the program using the wave drivers should have buffer adjustments in it's audio options dialog. fiddling with those values in an organized way might bring joy...another trick is to open the task manger and right click on the process using the wave drivers and then choose "priority/above normal".