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File Sharing Lawsuit

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http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www. ... jL1rS4TuGg

This girl is being used by the RIAA as an example, no doubt.
But she was allowed to settle out of court for her neffarious activites and laughed at them.
Who is laughing now.

Sad thing is she listens to piss poor mp3 quality that costed her a fortune...
Moral of the story...buy the CD.
She was found guilty by a jury of average Joe Americans who probably hate corporate America as much as the next guy.
I would love to see the court transcripts as she probably downloaded and then shared the music costing the artists and record company the litigated amount.

It seems like one can download music and it is tolerated, but to turn around and share it with thousands of others is what really chaps the RIAA's ass.

I am actually glad this has happened.
Up until 1995 I actually made a small but greatly appreciated ASCAP/BMI royalty check from various countries and now I get squat.
The last 3 digit one I got was 260 bucks and I bought Flexor III with it......
They go to my parents house still because when I was 20 I was toruing for the next 6 years and had no address. I haven't seen one this year, but last year I got 82 bucks............. :o
Yeah let's raise the flag for that one.....

Anyway the RIAA has the money and resources to sepina information and locations of people breaking the law. They act like Jesse Jackson by shaking down the suspects with out of court settlement offers, and when they agree, the charges are dropped.
This person decided to play Poker and call their bluff and lost...............and now she wants a re shuffle...............sorry.
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the RIAA are mafia in disguise.

They serve no purpose.

If they attempt to sue me or any of my <supposed> listeners/'purchasers' of my music (that I give away for free via constant comment - or whatever it's called nowadays), then I'll counter-sue their ass into oblivion.

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I doubt you pose any threat to them.
They're only interested in protecting their investment, no matter how poor of a choice that is..
I often thought because of the weak quality that mp3's were, that nobody would ever compile a serious collection of mp3's and archive/listen to them.
But I suppose that iPods are so popular these days it has become a threat.
Personally the sound of old albums are kind of cool, but my 8 track tapes of old Black Sabbath and Grand Funk Railroad are the warmest natural sounding media I have.
I have tried using my ancient Otari to get that sound but obviously need an old analog console which someday I'll get around to buying.
You'd think the RIAA and associated record labels would drop the cost of their CD's as I find the 18-20 price a Mafia practice.
I have 1300+ CD's I have collected since the '80's, and 300+ 8 tracks and you'd be shocked at the difference through my monitors you can hear when you play the CD, then the 8 track.
Night and Day. Even running the CD through Scope and using mastering plugs etc. The warmth is not there no matter how many sub harmonic frequency and distortion tricks are added.
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disgusting as always...
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I know this is getting a bit OT but...

Tape provides a natural compression, so does radio...that digital does not...that's why for a long time 2" tape was king in the digital birth era...then the availability of tape shrunk, hardware got cheaper, and cheaper, and cheaper (along with a lot of crappy hardware being manufactured) and pawned off as pro quality gear, to amateurs...those in the knowt, know who they are, and what they make....but the amateurs normally don't, and waste money on some gear, while if they just spent a little bit more money....

I'm not saying, that starting anywhere you can is a waste of money...but..there comes a time when the investment in certain hardware becomes counter productive to the product in the end :wink:
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netguyjoel wrote:I know this is getting a bit OT but...

Tape provides a natural compression, so does radio...that digital does not...that's why for a long time 2" tape was king in the digital birth era.....
Tape does not "naturally compress", it has a limited dynamic range and it has headroom, if you overdrive tape you have headroom where it does not distort to a significant degree unless you go well over the scale but loses dynamic range and frequency response a little in the process this is more dynamic saturation than compression, digital has no headroom either at conversion to/fro analogue or in the digital domain, for instance to get mathematically accurate eq on a 16 bit signal you need 56bits (hence the 2x 28bit accumulators on Moto 56k DSP's, they were designed for this application originally) the SHARCs only have 40bits and since there is no headroom if you eq too heavily the algorithms must either distort or lose resolution depending on implementation.

Radio does not compress, it has limited bandwidth, many radio stations compress the signal heavily, with one of the Behringer multi band compressors if they are small independent stations or with specialised FM compression units like Optimod if they are commercial provider, there is no natural compression, just a loss of bandwidth
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XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:Up until 1995 I actually made a small but greatly appreciated ASCAP/BMI royalty check from various countries and now I get squat.
Well with any luck you'll start getting a kickback everytime someone's ringtone plays your tune. You know, after they've gotten the ringtone through legal means (purchased etc.)

Now I have no gripe with ASCAP specifically really, there are legitimate reasons for ASCAP/BMI and their counterparts in other countries to exist. But copyright & trademark have really served their corporate masters well over the last 100 years, including ASCAP vs. the Girl Scouts. I suspect though that this isn't the same portion of ASCAP that sends you checks, but someone far savvier 'up the ladder' and with a nice legal staff.
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As for Jamie Thomas, she doesn't do a great job of presenting her case or providing a good 'alibi' for herself which makes it very easy for one to believe she's guilty (ie, the jurors.) In fact if this was a motion picture one might wonder if she was being paid off behind the scenes to put up such a poor showing in her fight, which is probably why the RIAA has let this case escalate. $80,000 per 'infringement' makes a wonderful precedent.
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80 large per infringemnet is a nice precedent.
I doubt it will do anything to scare anyone from pursuing their quest for free shitty sounding mp3's though.

And as far as tape handling distortion better I have always loved heavily distorted bands in the form of 8 track tape, especially when synths were added to the mix. Emersons organ with the Moog Modular going and Greg Lake playing the Bass with that Vox distortion booster plugged into the bass was just awesome. On CD it sounds like wimpimess in comparison.

And I was curious about the mathematical explanation above and wondering how it applies to music? Does that mean if I take a crappy sounding VST synth and use Motu's 56bit DSP chips it would sound better, or just look better on a white paper release?
Hell if that's the case I'll go buy a Motu and get rid of the XITE-1 and my analog synths and get the Oberheim, Moog, CS80 and ARP VST's becuase they sound like crap through my 40bit SHARC's. I could save thousands by buying these 50 dollar synths.......
I have been wrong for all these years, hell I thought I had good ears........ :lol:
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