GM food corporation threatens to kill the planet

[Shroomz~>]

This is something that I've been aware of for quite a number of years, but I've not been keeping up to date with the horrific extent of the problem that is the bioengineering company known as Monsanto. I'm sure quite a lot of you will instantly know that name, know the companies' long history & know that it's an unbelievably powerful US company which is intent on owning & controlling the entire world's food supply in the form of it's own genetically engineered products. It's a company worth talking about like virtually no other, so I thought I'd start a thread here so that we could focus on discussing it & posting links to relevant sources of information & campaigns against them & other similar would be threats to us all.

Don't have time to write any more right now, but I'll contribute more if a good discussion takes off.

So lets talk Monsanto...

[Fluxpod]

Dont get me started.They really got FING owned here in germany with their genetic engineered corn plants.They are forbidden now.I could go on and on about this piece of shit of a company but i already feel my bloodpressure so i better not.

[garyb]

your queen owns them.
both are pretty evil.

when i was a child, and i had those Scientific American mags because grandpa was a high level chemist, i really thought Monsanto was a company filled with those who just loved and wanted to aid humanity. now i know better.

[netguyjoel]

After doing some research, it just becomes insane.....governments sponsoring this atrocious level of nothing more than.....ugh..I can't post it without cinging the ears of you guys.....

I only have 3 words....EVIL EVIL EVIL. I think I'll start to try to buy only organic when I can... and is Whole Foods here in the US even really organic?

But who the hell even knows what other foods, are manufactured from these crops???

It's these things that piss me off more than Jerry Falwell at a gay pride parade even the planet earth is bi-polar...wait...it all ways has been....but for how much longer??

[Shroomz~>]

your queen owns them.

I didn't know that. Are you saying that she personally owns the company?

[Shroomz~>]

Dont get me started.They really got FING owned here in germany with their genetic engineered corn plants.They are forbidden now.I could go on and on about this piece of shit of a company but i already feel my bloodpressure so i better not.

Look into the conducts of the German companies Bayer & BASF as well...

[Shroomz~>]

After doing some research, it just becomes insane.....governments sponsoring this atrocious level of nothing more than.....ugh..I can't post it without cinging the ears of you guys.....

Some of the governments are generally only reading from scripts & advocating such things because they're being told/advised to do so. The real problem isn't the government puppets, it's the widespread corruption & corporate in/crossbreeding that allows/facilitates the likes of the FDA & other such organizations to pass genetically modified crops & horrifying bio engineered drugs like Posilac as actually being safe.

and is Whole Foods here in the US even really organic?

It depends where you live, but it's very worrying because on a worldwide scale, the GM crops are contaminating organic crops through cross pollination. I don't know the US figures, but apparently at one point in Canada there were no longer any natural crops which didn't contain genetically modified genes. Many other countries are or have experienced the same thing. There's even countries where GM crops were strictly banned, who then had to legalize them due to GM contamination into their system/s.

But who the hell even knows what other foods, are manufactured from these crops???

Just as with Posilac use in cows, the use of GM pig feed has shown drastic loss of fertility & other cellular modifications in the organs in the animals, which is obviously a problem since contamination of humans with these bio engineered genes is undoubted. It's enough to make me want to stop eating meat from pigs, but to be honest I really think that the food industry is becoming so saturated with this shit, that it's not going to make any difference if I stop eating pork or not because it's getting to the stage where the entire food chain is or is being contaminated, if it's not already there.

[garyb]

your queen owns them.

I didn't know that. Are you saying that she personally owns the company?

most of the biggest corps are owned by the family through a maze of holding companies. yes, she and her sister over on the continent...

the funny(ironic) thing is that the family only eats specially grown organic, non-gmo, heirloom produce and meat. the other stuff is for commoners.

100% of lab animals fed gmo foods develope stomach cancer.
pigs should NEVER be eaten, regardless of how they are grown or how tasty they may be.

[Shroomz~>]

most of the biggest corps are owned by the family through a maze of holding companies. yes, she and her sister over on the continent...

Oh Right, so you tell me that Monsanto is owned by the Queen of England, but you can't point to some evidence? ..Holding companies? Hedge funds? Banks? Yes, so you mean that rich people's money is held by other rich people who invest all of the money they're given into corporations they see as being profitable?

[dawman]

The Queen has her hands in everything.......but the Monsanto ownership remark surprised me.
She would also have a stake in DuPont then as well, as those companies are joined at the hip.

Those cock suckers infuriated our neighborhood, as I grew up next to their South St.Louis Plant.
They have got a pass from the EPA for decades. My father could be heard cursing every morning as he wiped the yellow film from his windshield just so he could drive to work.
We grew up in an ethnic neighborhood of poor Jews and stubborn Italians that still live there.
They have a habit of placing their plants near large black populations also, as they know there would be no organized effort to move them from the community, plus they could easily pay off the next temporary occupants of City Hall.

Even when I started going over to East St. Louis when I was 16 to jam with the Brotha's, my father was more worried about me dying from the super huge facility there, than the Brotha's skinning me alive.

If you were to google Monsanto and check out the map, you'll see exactly what I am talking about. I believe there are 13 large facilities in St.Louis as it is their world headquarters.
I take pride in knowing I vandalized their trains everyweek with those large fist sized rocks alongside of the railroad tracks... We got angry because they caused such a nasty yellow film to coat everything that we attacked them at every oppurtunity. I even had to wipe off my Banana seat on my Stingray bicycle.........
I believe they are past making Agent Orange and pesticides these days.
The thought of them being involved with world food distribution is scarry.

[garyb]

most of the biggest corps are owned by the family through a maze of holding companies. yes, she and her sister over on the continent...

Oh Right, so you tell me that Monsanto is owned by the Queen of England, but you can't point to some evidence? ..Holding companies? Hedge funds? Banks? Yes, so you mean that rich people's money is held by other rich people who invest all of the money they're given into corporations they see as being profitable?

who owns the money?

oh right! it's MY job to prove to you what you can find out with your OWN research. get off your lazy ass if you don't believe me, or just keep believing as you wish! this is just an internet forum. there's NOTHING to prove here. just where DOES her money come from anyway? you know that she owns the Parliement building and the land it's on right? so who OWNS your government? maybe there's a further reason why her picture is on the money...

who's the richest, most powerful person, the one with the most money, or the one who owns the money system?

blah, blah, blah, we're just yacking, but here's a hint. the Queen owns the BBC. if you were meant to know all the details of what she owns, you'd have been told.

royals are not regular rich people. they are special and they do things for reasons you don't comprehend. their reality is not yours, they are beyond "rich". they have ownership.

if you check out Phillip's comments about population control and read Wells, Huxley, Plato and Malthus, you'll see that corporate policy of companies like Monsanto follows right in line.

[dawman]

Funny how they all have titles.........Lots of Kings & Queens.
I was just hoping to have a roadside restroom on Highway 15 named after me before I die...

[Shroomz~>]

I believe they are past making Agent Orange and pesticides these days.

Not at all unfortunately. Their GM crops require to be sprayed with specific pesticides that must be bought from them, or else the crops don't grow & yield properly. These pesticides are highly toxic & contaminate water supplies leading to contamination of livestock as well. Farmers in South American countries within the past 2 years have seen entire flocks fall over dead due to contamination from the pesticides. The sad thing is, that while natural crops are being massively undercut by importation of GM crops in these countries, the imported crops are contaminating the eco systems of the same countries to the extent of forcing the traditional farmers not only out of business, but out of their homes. Then you've got India, where GM crops completely took over the market & farmers have found it near impossible to buy natural seed, despite the fact the GM seed costs 3 to 4 times as much for them to buy.

[Shroomz~>]

who owns the money?

What money?

[Shroomz~>]

oh right! it's MY job to prove to you what you can find out with your OWN research. get off your lazy ass if you don't believe me, or just keep believing as you wish! this is just an internet forum. there's NOTHING to prove here. just where DOES her money come from anyway? you know that she owns the Parliement building and the land it's on right? so who OWNS your government? maybe there's a further reason why her picture is on the money...

who's the richest, most powerful person, the one with the most money, or the one who owns the money system?

blah, blah, blah, we're just yacking, but here's a hint. the Queen owns the BBC. if you were meant to know all the details of what she owns, you'd have been told.

royals are not regular rich people. they are special and they do things for reasons you don't comprehend. their reality is not yours, they are beyond "rich". they have ownership.

The 'Commonwealth' that you so often refer to Gary, has about as much actual importance as owning a piece of land on the moon. Nothing can be done with it. As for getting off my lazy ass as you put it, well all I asked is that for once you back up your statements with some sort of proof, rather than tall tales & references to old colonial title deeds &/or ownership, none of which prove that the queen owns Monsanto as you originally stated here.

[dawman]

You are right about the water table damage.
Private farmers are being crowded out by corporate farms at an alarming rate. And that word corporate is alarming in itself.
I just got a clean bill of health after 30 days of running treadmills, and MRI's and ultrasounds, so I feel fortunate.
I wish I could I could trust the food called " Organic " but even then, am I to trust the label only..?
I use to buy everything from the farmers becuase of the price and the weekly drive was great family fun, but here in Vegas a cactus has a tough time growing.
I did go to a grocery store called Sunflower that seems to be making a stir locally, and the first thing I noticed was the smell of the peppers and produce was heavenly....
I have only gone there a few times now and yes, I am going to try and eat healthy and quit smoking. I haven't had red meat for weeks now. Lots of turkey chili, chicken & fish.
I actually fell a little better
No more Jager, no cigs, no nothing.......Wine, Women & Song. It worked for the Vikings.

[Shroomz~>]

Mark my word JV, non-infected seeds will be worth more than Gold per gram in years to come. In the meantime, food can be grown in greenhouses, but how do you know if the seed is good? As you say, do you trust the label? How do you get into the greenhouse without a decontamination chamber at the door? How did we get to the state of affairs where supposedly clean & healthy food gets the label 'organic' & costs more than 'normal' food. Very sad indeed. It should be more like food is just food & doesn't need to be isolated from these monstrosities. It shouldn't have to be given the name organic, it should be the GM crap that's isolated & given the name 'genetically modified' - 'eat at your own risk' - 'this may alter your natural bio chemistry & cause unknown side effects'.

[dawman]

I might sound paranoid, but I have been stacking away ammo and MRE's for months now thanks to the rhetoric of the media and politicians.
I should try and find some seeds that can be kept fresh and stash them too.
If the shit ever hits the fan and the trucks stop rolling, I have a place to go but I never thought of growing my own food.
My brothers wife does this and he hunts and fishes for a living.
It's starting to make a lot of sense.
I thought a certain country in Africa was being ungrateful as they refused food from the Red Cross while their people were starving.........?
It seems like they were a little more informed than I first thought.

Here's what it looks like where I grew up along the Mississippi. It looks more like a wartime production plant and dwarfs the Shell refinery next door. St.Louis is the worlds largest trucking center, barge traffic and railway center combined. It's smack in the middle of the USA.

[garyb]

oh right! it's MY job to prove to you what you can find out with your OWN research. get off your lazy ass if you don't believe me, or just keep believing as you wish! this is just an internet forum. there's NOTHING to prove here. just where DOES her money come from anyway? you know that she owns the Parliement building and the land it's on right? so who OWNS your government? maybe there's a further reason why her picture is on the money...

who's the richest, most powerful person, the one with the most money, or the one who owns the money system?

blah, blah, blah, we're just yacking, but here's a hint. the Queen owns the BBC. if you were meant to know all the details of what she owns, you'd have been told.

royals are not regular rich people. they are special and they do things for reasons you don't comprehend. their reality is not yours, they are beyond "rich". they have ownership.

The 'Commonwealth' that you so often refer to Gary, has about as much actual importance as owning a piece of land on the moon. Nothing can be done with it. As for getting off my lazy ass as you put it, well all I asked is that for once you back up your statements with some sort of proof, rather than tall tales & references to old colonial title deeds &/or ownership, none of which prove that the queen owns Monsanto as you originally stated here.

nothing can be done with it?

something IS being done with it, everyday. your government only runs through the "goodwill" of the Soveriegn. you really have no idea how the world actually functions, but you THINK you do. no, i'm not going to prove anything to you. the female dog owns it all, whether or not you believe it or like it.
the Queen's schools taught you that she's powerless and penniless? sucker...

once again, just internet bs....

[garyb]

who owns the money?

What money?

the money that you say it's all about...