prblm of evil

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:49 am

This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Drum & Bass <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Synths copyleft © Rhythm&RuckusRecords _____________________________________ here is another track for you pulsarians
sorry it is 6:00min. long, and is 5.5MB
the track is kinda dark

gear used: Pulsar I + LunaII - OS 2.04a, Win98 pIII 933 DAW, Yamaha CS2X control synth, Alesis DM5 drum brain [w/custom electric drum kit built by yours truly], and Fostex VM200 mixer.

do you like it?

[ This Message was edited by: algorhythm on 2001-11-21 19:01 ]

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue Sep 04, 2001 3:56 pm

Hehe. Chuckles all around. Now if you could only get master Fripp to do a guitar track on this one.
I like it, especially when the vibes come in at 2:00.
(I have to get a track in here)

Cheers!
Paul

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:19 pm

brand me uninformed, but who is master Fripp? (i mostly ignore popular media).

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:35 pm

Master Fripp is Robert Fripp, and is also far from 'popular media'.

The king of progressive and experimental rock, for me, he's at the same level as Frank Zappa, or maybe also Gentle Giant...

And yes, he's the Master.

He his also well know as a teacher of music a G.I.T. (Guitar Institute of Technology)

He is my inspiration, along with Jimi Hendrix.

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:43 pm

Oh yeah, BTW, pretty cool algorythm! Love this track!

It keep us listening....

The bass drum sound like rubber, cool.
Love the takeover at 4min.
The little epiano that is behind all the way help to balance alot.

Over all, well, here's a coOl one!

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Sep 06, 2001 5:31 am

On 2001-09-05 19:19, algorhythm wrote:
brand me uninformed, but who is master Fripp? (i mostly ignore popular media).

Hi Algorhythm!
Check out The Repercussions of Angelic Behaviour by Fripp-Gunn -Rieflin and you'll get the jist of my thinking in my previous entry.
Cheers!
Paul

borg · Post by **borg** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:39 pm

real neat (forget 'bout making it harder/more aggressive) dark atmosphere which sounds good to me. my problem with d'n'b raves is that i want it to be LOUD and HEAVY, but it tires me and i get bored. so i head for the chill out room, but then i want to go home. mmmm, just give me techno to space all night long, electro to pop the body or idm/ai(or whatever you may call music like phahkt by algo) to baldly go where...
nice one j.
the evil fucker does seem to crash the system everytime it reaches the end though.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 3:58 pm

haad coow maannnnn haaarrdddddd... Verrry trippy. Some one, gimme some shroooooms!!!
Wished you freaked up the drums 3000% though... it sounds very cleeeen. err, maybe that's the intended effect but the tee ba-ba-baybee sounds make me want some more dirt, aggression!!!

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 8:55 pm

kensuguro wrote:
haad coow maannnnn haaarrdddddd...
the tee ba-ba-baybee sounds make me want some more dirt, aggression!!!

I am sorry, but I can find no meaning in this. Please explain, if you care to .

I want to release a final version of this in the near future; one thing I have worked on is the drums - the version here is almost completely dry - I have added some overdrive and distortion to snarez and hatz . . . not quite 3000% though

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 11:24 pm

hehe, sorry for my strange expression...
I mean the "tb"
"tee"-ba-bay"bee"? Get it?

junklight · Post by **junklight** » Wed Nov 14, 2001 2:54 am

This is wicked - off to check your other stuff out....

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Wed Nov 14, 2001 7:30 am

kensuguro wrote:
I mean the "tb"

yeah, i get it, but it is a patch I made on my Yamaha CS2X with a sine, saw, and some distortion (if you are talking about the bassline at the end).

at any rate, thx for the words.

Yoonchi · Post by **Yoonchi** » Sat Dec 08, 2001 5:57 pm

Excellent mix. The song needs some development though; it's like stuck, no resolution. Only building of tension. I like that ripping sound. If that comes out of a CS2x, I need to check if I can do that on my CS1x,

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Nice airplane emulation at the beginning,

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Yoonchi.

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:26 am

SHIT !!!

It makes me go crazy.

I TOTALY LOVE IT MAAN !!! Thats what i call Severe beats.

Nice Tech Step track this one....with softish bells YAH !!!!!!

I think you will like my presets that iv'e made...you can download them here on planets.

* Rage presets for both the TB-303 clone from Orbitone and Rage presets for "CW's" Inferno.

Check em' out.

BOO SELECTA' !!!

Good Work.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:43 pm

Drums are killer!

You can’t avoid frowning hard looking the void!

Is that too much to ask you why have you chosen this words and ideas? I’m curious.

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:18 pm

explanation of samples and such for Nestor:

origin of song:
A course I took in Fall 2001 called "The Problem of Evil" inspired me - it was a senior level/graduate course in philosophy at the University of Akron, Ohio, USA. The 'problem' as it were, is these two beliefs: (1) There is an omnipotent benevolent god (capital "G"). (2) evil exists in the world.

If God exists, is omnipotent and benevolent, how can there be evil in the world?
Either God is not benevolent (God has the power to eliminate evil, but does not) or God is not omnipotent (God wants to eliminate evil, but lacks the power to do so). In either case, God is not both omnipotent and benevolent. It gets a lot more complicated than that, but that is the basic jist of it.

Where are the vocal samples from?
Three sources:
(1) A coworker and I have had numerous conversations on religious/philosophical matters. She is an uncritical Christian. I am an atheist. We made a deal - She gave me this audio tape to "save" me, and I had her read "Why I am Not A Christian" by Bertrand Russell. The tape was called "Why I am Not An Atheist." It is sorta funny, the tape is supposed to be a reply to Bertrand Russell by some Christian "Philosopher." I expected some good philosophy on the tape. BUT - it was piss poor, illogical drivel.
(2) An online real player file about the problem of evil. this was actually decent philosophically, not that I agree.

(3) This super creepy 1970's "Children's Bible Stories" record I got in Goodwill store for US$0.35. It is two guys with an analog synth, mic, and plate reverb unit for the "god is talking" effect

Shouts out to the UK - Bertrand Russell was cool. [I don't like analytic philosophy much, I like german and french phenomenology mostly]
The UK makes national celebrities out of philosophers. Americans obsess over white stains on blue dresses (Clinton) and slow moving ford boronco's (OJ Simpson).

borg · Post by **borg** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:59 am

what was the outcome of your debate? did she read the book and was her reaction?

nice of the pope to forgive all the victims of child abuse by catholic priests for their sins.

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 5:45 am

outcome of the debate? no outcome -> we don't talk about those matters anymore, she decided. She admitted her belief was based on faith and that our discussions disturbed her emotionally and that she preferred not to question such matters.
She read the essay by Russell in that sense that her eyes past over the words, but she did not appreciate any meaning from the words. She had made her judgement before opening the cover.

No comment on the pope - because of papal infallability in religious matters, it would impious for me to say anything

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:51 am

Interesting matter that concerns me much…

I think it’s difficult to look at stars with a microscope!

I mean: Mental Philosophy it is good for some speculation but that’s it. Sooner or later dies with no means to experience this supposed truth, letting us in complete darkness! I don’t believe in “intellect” as a mean to search Truth nor deep understanding of life or any “soul” related topic. The intellect is absolutely insufficient even if today there are worshipers who adore the intellect as if it was the maximum exponent and power of human nature.

I do not worship intellect cos intellect is only a fraction of a human being; it’s just an organizational portion of us and should always be there. Intellect it’s always trapped into duality so never knows anything completely – despite the fact of being so useful – cos can’t experience directly the principles of the universe.

I believe and am utterly sure we have far more powerful implements to go in searching about the meaning of life and all the rest. To myself, to believe is an act of ignorance, and to reject it is exactly the same… an act of ignorance. None of both attitudes are EXPERIENCING THE REAL! Only direct experience is valuable the rest is inconsistent, we all can think whatever we want about a mountain, but only those who go to the mountain knows about it. The believer do not experience “the believed thing”, the rejecter do not experience “the non-believed thing” either. Both are ignorant, cos none of both has gone through the experience of it. They are both talking about something they do not know.

I believe in the powers of Human Heart, I swear for it!

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 10:51 am

We are wonderfully OT now . . .

I agree with most of what you say Nestor. As I said, I don't like analytic philosophy, generally speaking. I like phenomenology, which is, roughly, the study of "that which appears," or phenomena (eg. Sartre and Merleau Ponty).

You cannot see stars with a microscope, but what does that have to do with God? Can you see god in any way?

I agree with you to a point on the belief/disbelief/non-judgement, BUT - Even a tacit non-consent to the existence of God still makes you an atheist. We are all born atheists in the sense that we do have not yet formed beliefs. Some analytics go further and become "positive atheists" (those who believe that god does not exist). I simply do not assent that god exists, making no negative-universal statements (of the form "a thing X does not exist in the world).

One thing I would take issue with is that you assume that there is a "soul" - I do not accept such a notion. Have you found it in "direct experience"? Perhaps you could show me how to experience a soul . . .