Kontakt 3.0

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Kontakt 3.0

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Well I just spent hours listening and loading some GB's from hell.
I bought Kontakt 3.0 because I love Chris Heins libraries in Kontakt and other developers also have some great stuff.
This is a fast well designed application, but the included 33GB's of sounds are so lame.
Some developers are more concerned with showing you that they can record release samples that they destroy the instruments they are emulating.

The Hohner D6 had some release noise on the real instrument but never detectable if one would play the instrument with energy and hit the keys and boogie. Never using lazy fingers the notes must be popped, but this sad immatation is totally unrealistic and sounds like a box of shit.
The Rhodes is sloppy and weak, the Wurlitzer sounds pathetic as well.
The Vienna Strings are the same old ones from Gigastudio years ago, and have nothing extra added except tons of Molasses, and need to be totally reworked to be of any use.
The synths are as expected, samples of patches from Omnisphere probably.
Even the Vintage String Machines which are so easy to re create with dry samples and Scope effects are just cheese wizz.
I won't waste anymore of our valuable time reviewing the samples as they are all completely weak and worthless IMHO.

The effects are capable of producing vomit. Even their Chorus is overcolored.
Phaser is the worst I have ever heard on any instrument. The delays add color and puke to any sound and the reverb.............OMG. If I wanted to get a piece of ass right now, I would go completely limp during sex just thinking about these grotesque IR's.
Unbelievable library of jive, bull shit.

Other than that, it's an outstanding sample playback application with great ways to control and edit performances..... :wink:

I advise anyone who buys it to definately save some HDD space and avoid the hours of time loading, and the hours of time searching for a single usuable sound.....it will only anger you, unless you have never heard Gigastudio or other Kontakt libraries that are better recorded.

I have tried to be kind but this material is so insulting I would hate to see any of my Brotha's here waste their time loading the worthless content that comes with it.

It does convert Gigastudio Libraries with ease and at least then the app has a great sound, but save your CPU's and eliminate the maggot gagging effects. They are the worst I have ever heard period..........
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Large libraries translate into Kore sales? :P
Or perhaps it makes a great My First Sampler product to sell at the "GEEtarr" shops?
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yup, yup....
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Actually, I do use Kontakt, but I use it mostly as a sound design because it's easy to work on a sample program without focusing on keygroups first. It works very similarly to the Emu e4 (and e5000 etc) series... Ie, I can grab a sample loop off any musical material (the 'old' style of sampling, not this newfangled 'buying your samples' thing) and turn it into something that has a filter/env/fx (or several) and then duplicate that 2-3 times to layer it up (either replacing the sample or using different filter types & envelopes to put motion into my loop.) This is probably exactly opposite of what you're using it for, which is as a sampler to recreate instruments to 'play' with your keyboard.
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I will use it like I used my old Emulators also.
I agree it is very much like EMU used to be with resampling and the Z Filters.
It is a very powerful way to create groups and performances also.
But because of the sheer amount of high quality content available for it, to pass it by would be stubborn and foolish.
I also copied the dll.'s over to Gigastudio's hosting folders and was surpised to see it load up under GS4.
I need both of these, and also need to do surgery on these Giant over sized romplers and create my own performances in hopes of avoiding the inevitable 64bit path that awaits us.
I really would love to stay in 32bit as long as I can, but Giga is already 64bit and can host just about anything.
We'll see how it goes after Messe.
Gigastudio is actually one of the most stable apps around. I know of a Grammy winning show where GS3 is still being used and the expensive 32 channel audio switcher has never been needed after 6 nights a week and 3 years of HDD streaming madness. Other shows in town are using it also w/ a zero failure rate.
After hearing these horrible effects I often wonder why more people don't have Scope? Just the mixing and mastering is enough of a reason.
The Video game quality sounds have been removed from my drives already, it's too bad that I have to disable the effects on every load. It should be the other way around.....they should only be allowed to destroy a mix if chosen.....
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Which is why your uses are such good counterpoint to my experiences, I had never even checked out the stock content! Also I must admit the fx are pretty bad, outside of the occasional part needing thickening I tend to only use them when I need something synced to a voice being triggered (lfo/env/etc modulating that voice's effect.) Which pretty much eliminates using them as group effects within a program or send effects globally (send to external is much more used.)
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I can load more w/ K 3.0.
This is what confuses me.... :x Bidule just got upgraded to multicore compatability, and K 3.0 has just been added. This is proof IMHO that they could have done more with 32 bit as lately I have been noticing how smooth everything is running.
I will get everything working really smooth and then pray for XITE-1.
Holger mentioned that 32bit XP was the way to go, but that Vista 64bit was his choice for a laptop. So here we will go through another year watching 32bit get refined even better.
I get better advice here from you guys than the developers that I spend my money with.. :lol:
I went through the Ethnic / World samples that I never really use just to see before I would delete them and decided the smallest samples in this library are the best.
Steel Drums and percussion are really clean and sound great. So it's not a total waste.
My new Chris Hein Soprano Saxophone is really sweet. More of a Wayne Shorter sound instead of that snake charming Kenny G. sound.
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