Dedicated metering for scope?

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Dedicated metering for scope?

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I am looking for some good meters for scope. I would love to see something similar to the package that comes with the RME interfaces. It would be very nice to always have my meters up on the screen separate from my host program. I did a search and came up with only two dead links.
A frequency graph would have to be number one in wishes :)

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what about wolf's analyzer package?

http://www.wolf-audio.com/wad/devices/E ... _Pack.html
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Feel free to try the one attached. It's not bad for nothing. :)
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That's a big one, almost taller than my display! (900 pixels) :lol: I need a second display soon. :D Looks cool, though. :)
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Yes, it's quite big. It was designed for using @ 1280x1024 screen resolution or above, so if you're running below that resolution, HighTimes probably isn't for you. Oddly, it's the only Scope device I've made that won't work on a resolution as low as 1024x768 (which is a useful size to support for laptop users who only have 15" screens).
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stardust wrote:1280=19" LCD
..or CRT :D
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Oh, call me a Vintage-monitor-o-phile... :lol:
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Yes this is a great tool.

My old analog presets always got out of hand.
Now a days I have projects for each synth, and High Times gets me my -6db on every preset for each synth.

Thanks Again for this nifty freebie. :D
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Thanks Shroomz that is right about my price point at the moment :D
That other bundle looks like the way to go for me but it is way to much for my blood these days. I already have some good meters but having them in the scope domain would make things easier for me as they would be there all the time running in the background on one of my three screens 8) I work all in the box now so the more screens the better. I don't know how people do it on them little laptops!

I will keep that other pack in mind.
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I was just messing around and decided to use the Shoomzometer in an insert slot of Prowave.
I use it when creating Presets so when I go from -6 Pads, to do a 0db Lead I don't need to adjust my volumes live.
But since I have 6 insert slots, which when used usually boosts the synths output, I thought I would make it a part of the preset.
To my suprise each preset when called up places the Meter dead center of the Project window everytime when using Prowave or Solaris.

This gave me the idea of having all of my ASIO Busses, Master Outs, Analog synth, B2003, Prowave and Six-String with their own meter.
I'll let you know how it works after the gig tonight.
It takes up the whole screen when all nine are loaded up.
Only 4 of these are used simultaneously, but after jotting down notes all week I might get my levels tweaked even better.

It really looks great because it's so big, perfect for stage.
I have to do the stupid Ed Sullivan stage set up with those corny '60's risers for Drums, Keys, etc. in Janurary, so these will be a nice plus. I had to have a special foot pedal snake to reach my racks just for this gig too. Compliments of GaryB..................ankyu. :wink:
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JV, it would be possible to update HighTimes so that it's screen position is recalled with preset changing. I just didn't add that feature because it could potentially be more of an annoyance than helpful. It's possible anyway, but maybe you should hold off in case anyone releases new meters. :wink:
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I think it's perfect when it's just used in an insert slot on a Bowen synth.
Dead center of the screen. :wink:

I learned from using these last night that even though I was running my Horn Section Bus @ -6db, when combined w/ the B2003 and Analog synth, the Master Output instance was hitting a + 2db.
I compensated by cranking up my 2 x Barbetta keyboard monitors and dropping the Busses to -9db.
The best thing about using the meters was the other members noticed I was busy and backed off of their numerous meaningless demands of EQ, etc. after every fuckin' song. :lol:

From a distance of 6 feet from my DAW screen, my mixers tiny LED meters on a dark stage cannot be seen. These are perfect for the chore, as I can read them from across the stage if need be.

Tonight I will get every level exactly where I need it and then attach a Comp/Limiter to the Master Out insert slot just for good measure.

I never figured I could justify using one as I didn't think I was combining enoough parts simultaneously. Your little ( large ) meters have taught me differently.

Thanks Again.
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XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:I learned from using these last night that even though I was running my Horn Section Bus @ -6db, when combined w/ the B2003 and Analog synth, the Master Output instance was hitting a + 2db.
What were you monitoring the 'Master Output instance' with to measure that + 2db reading? Either I'm missing something from your description of what you were doing or maybe you're not using my meter correctly.
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It was a summing of several busses.
It actually was perfect for helping lower the master output sends and crank up the Barbetta cabinets.
Since this is live mixing there are many varaibles.
The meters actually helped with the Bass & Guitar as they make claims to the effect " I haven't changed anything on my sends "...............Bull Shit.....I have the Shroomzometer that proves they change their levels gradually as the night goes on.
Since I have to deal with these primadonnas wanting more of this and that all night in their ear monitors, I know why now.
They want to hear more of themselves, but instead of asking to me to give them a hotter signal of themselves in their own ear monitor send they change their volume so everyone has to hear more of them and it's an endless chase.
So having these meters placed on the inputs has solved issues there as well.
I can't possibly mix w/ the mixer at a distance especially while trying to play.
But I can monitor the inputs and outputs much better by having these meters available in various locations.
I now use them on the output pairs, and input pairs, and as soon as I detect these guys raising their sends, I immediately can see and hear the changes and then use my KS88 faders to fix it. No longer can they tell me they are not raising their levels....I have proof.
I simply explain to them that when I have to lower their inputs, they are now playing w/ a degraded signal. They hate it. But I can enjoy playing more instead of chasing these levels which takes the fun out of playing.
At the end of the day most musicians want to hear more of themselves and have no interest in mixing for the sake of the sound of the group.

I send out 3 stereo pairs. The Master outputs, the drum bus, and the vocal bus. These cabinets are great because I have gain levels to adjust which are the last in the chain.
While my headsets might have an excellent representation of the mix, I always do the last tweaks on the cabinets. They have 12" woofers and I prefer these over larger cabinets as I can get alot more punch out of them than some floppy 15's or 18's.

I might not be using these for their intended purposes, but they sure have helped me in my live mixing nightmare.

BTW, I don't store these in Prowave, I just wanted to see how they responded at the end of an insert stack. I do use the meter though on every preset when I create and then store them. Having such leveling when making the presets only helps out later when they are called up during a live mix.

One thing is for certain the analog synth, live instruments and mic pres must have meters as these volumes flucuate too much to do any guesswork.

Thanks for making them.
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