Before I undertake this adventure I was hoping to get advice.
When HDD's are being used for disk streaming their previous paths could be changed, but I am interested in a speedy backup of all of my HDD's.
I just recieved 4 new HDD's 2 days late and have today to finish this chore.
Should a stright old cloning, which would take the longest, be my best choice, or just re format and do 2 simulataneously using RAID 1, then disabling the RAID feature and keep one as a hot spare?
Ankyu.
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I shall try that.
I used RAID 1 on the P4SCT+II a few years ago just for the disc creation. Once the HDD's were created, RAID was disabled, then one HDD was removed and kept as a Hot Spare. We only used it for creation, but it took way too long. That software feature was a Marvel app. Intel came out with their Matrix RAID which was a year later I believe.
Your solution sounds quicker and would enable me to have a second drive ready to go in a moments notice. Besides, I would have to learn the Intel RAID app. and install the drivers via a FDD drive, which seems odd as Intel is always trying to set new trends.....FDD? I guess it was a cost / ratio issue.
Thanks Aagain Brotha' Man Stardust. BTW Optimaster using the Piano preset w/ MVPro slightly tweaked is incredible even w/o a Lexicon.
I used RAID 1 on the P4SCT+II a few years ago just for the disc creation. Once the HDD's were created, RAID was disabled, then one HDD was removed and kept as a Hot Spare. We only used it for creation, but it took way too long. That software feature was a Marvel app. Intel came out with their Matrix RAID which was a year later I believe.
Your solution sounds quicker and would enable me to have a second drive ready to go in a moments notice. Besides, I would have to learn the Intel RAID app. and install the drivers via a FDD drive, which seems odd as Intel is always trying to set new trends.....FDD? I guess it was a cost / ratio issue.
Thanks Aagain Brotha' Man Stardust. BTW Optimaster using the Piano preset w/ MVPro slightly tweaked is incredible even w/o a Lexicon.
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i use norton ghost. creates the images of the whole c: kept in an external drives file.
you can replace your c: with a new hd (not the same capcity necesarilly) and by using the boot from cdrom of the norton ghost you have the ghost environment to transfer your old hds os to the new hd by looking into the norton ghost backup folder and choosing the file you want that includes the image of how you worked at a specific day.
if you are not using any raid it is much easier, because you will avoid the F6 installation of other drivers
you can replace your c: with a new hd (not the same capcity necesarilly) and by using the boot from cdrom of the norton ghost you have the ghost environment to transfer your old hds os to the new hd by looking into the norton ghost backup folder and choosing the file you want that includes the image of how you worked at a specific day.
if you are not using any raid it is much easier, because you will avoid the F6 installation of other drivers
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ghost or acronis??
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sorry, i meant which one is more safe or more convenient. some experience and opinions.
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I used the Acronis image and used the O.S. + Apps last night, no problemos.
Tonight we will try the HDD w/ the VDAT tracks.
This is a nice way to have hot spare HDD's. Using the newest HDD's to do rigorous duties while the used HDD's can be keep as spares and unfortunately updated monthly.
Tonight we will try the HDD w/ the VDAT tracks.
This is a nice way to have hot spare HDD's. Using the newest HDD's to do rigorous duties while the used HDD's can be keep as spares and unfortunately updated monthly.
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Well good thing I got Acronis because I had my 2nd HDD failure in 5 years.
One would think it would be one the 3 x Sample drives, but twice now it's been the O.S. + Apps.
It has been incremental too. I wouldn't have noticed this but twice now, the Glidepoint on a 1U has been latching/unlatching when moving files, folders or devices.
I also remember having freezes while creating Modular patches or making presets.
Thankfully I made a copy again but have lost all work done since the last August 10th upgrade.
That sucks because I just spent the last month archiving old devices and spent countless hours with Modular on my downtime.
FWIW, the Western Digital Raptors aren't very big, but they are fast and I cannot see buying any other drives. I run these HDD's 60 to 70 hours a week for years so I have no complaints and thanks for the tips on Cloning HDD's...
BTW, I still have never had a crash during a gig, but I did cancel my Afternoon gig.
Luckily tonight is Grand Piano only.......
One would think it would be one the 3 x Sample drives, but twice now it's been the O.S. + Apps.
It has been incremental too. I wouldn't have noticed this but twice now, the Glidepoint on a 1U has been latching/unlatching when moving files, folders or devices.
I also remember having freezes while creating Modular patches or making presets.
Thankfully I made a copy again but have lost all work done since the last August 10th upgrade.
That sucks because I just spent the last month archiving old devices and spent countless hours with Modular on my downtime.
FWIW, the Western Digital Raptors aren't very big, but they are fast and I cannot see buying any other drives. I run these HDD's 60 to 70 hours a week for years so I have no complaints and thanks for the tips on Cloning HDD's...
BTW, I still have never had a crash during a gig, but I did cancel my Afternoon gig.
Luckily tonight is Grand Piano only.......
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Funny, my OS+apps drives are usually the ones to fail as well. It's a lot less frequent if I don't let them spin down for power saving, but I agree it's (at least anecdotally) significant in my case as well. My theory is that the random access patterns in response to the user's actions, and jumps across the disk to go between swap, os files and apps is somehow presenting a more difficult load than streaming samples (which might be easier to predict and queue.)
Anyway I second the Acronis recommendations, I actually prefer it over Ghost these days. Good choice with a low learning curve & easy recovering options.
DriveImageXML is also a perfectly good (in fact imo great) FREE solution for someone willing to take the time to figure it out (since it's sans wizards and has slightly more confusing documentation.)
Anyway I second the Acronis recommendations, I actually prefer it over Ghost these days. Good choice with a low learning curve & easy recovering options.
DriveImageXML is also a perfectly good (in fact imo great) FREE solution for someone willing to take the time to figure it out (since it's sans wizards and has slightly more confusing documentation.)
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Exactamente.
That's why the SSD is the best choice now.
I promised after the Raptors died I would phase into SSD's, but I thought I had till 2010.
I still have time for my sample drives, but the Intellilinx is a good choice for the O.S. + Apps. and the G2 version of the X25M that supports TRIM is a good choice for Windows 7 so I've been told. I also support TRIM, so now I will be supporting the local TRIM here in Las Vegas, and also the new standard for SSD's......ankyu.
What I have learned was that I could use the 3.5" SATA How Swap enclosure standard w/ the SSD/CF adapter, and stick a dual SSD enclosure in my SATA RAID Cage.
For anyone who has been spanning sampled content across multiple drives for better performance, just buying a single SSD will now replace that method.
Most guys buy these gigantic instruments and hardly use the entire amount of articulations, and variations of mic placements, and all of that fake nonsense + effects.
So a 160GB SSD can have pretty much all of the content I will ever need live. The rest can be stored on a giant slow SATA II USB caddy with leftover content.
The 160GB has no fast or slow areas like mechanical drives either. On a 150GB Raptor I could only use 110GB for the samples, which was the only way to maintain high perfromance. That is no longer a worry.
I bought the Patriot Convoy and an OCZ Vertex that should be installed today.
It's 3 year warranty is O.K. I suppose as long as you are making money off of a DAW.
That's why the SSD is the best choice now.
I promised after the Raptors died I would phase into SSD's, but I thought I had till 2010.
I still have time for my sample drives, but the Intellilinx is a good choice for the O.S. + Apps. and the G2 version of the X25M that supports TRIM is a good choice for Windows 7 so I've been told. I also support TRIM, so now I will be supporting the local TRIM here in Las Vegas, and also the new standard for SSD's......ankyu.
What I have learned was that I could use the 3.5" SATA How Swap enclosure standard w/ the SSD/CF adapter, and stick a dual SSD enclosure in my SATA RAID Cage.
For anyone who has been spanning sampled content across multiple drives for better performance, just buying a single SSD will now replace that method.
Most guys buy these gigantic instruments and hardly use the entire amount of articulations, and variations of mic placements, and all of that fake nonsense + effects.
So a 160GB SSD can have pretty much all of the content I will ever need live. The rest can be stored on a giant slow SATA II USB caddy with leftover content.
The 160GB has no fast or slow areas like mechanical drives either. On a 150GB Raptor I could only use 110GB for the samples, which was the only way to maintain high perfromance. That is no longer a worry.
I bought the Patriot Convoy and an OCZ Vertex that should be installed today.
It's 3 year warranty is O.K. I suppose as long as you are making money off of a DAW.
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Nice job. Since you're not doing writing (and having to worry about how the write-hit penalty is accounted for via on-SSD caches & OS caching) I think SSD's are an ideal choice.