VDAT To Reaper?

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:04 pm

Well I have finally did a recording w/ VDAT.

It sounds much better than Cubase, etc.

I become very busy again starting tommorrow, so I have all night to get this finished,

I only need to know how to record VDAT to Reaper, then I suppose that can be downloaded to the Z.

I would really appreciate a little picture from a routing window, since that is something I am familiar with.

Thanks In Advance,

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:16 pm

I cant do pictures..???...

But all you need is VDAT out > Mixer (st out) > ASIO dest

And press record in Repear and play on VDAT

Tau · Post by **Tau** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:26 pm

Yep, that way you can mix with scope fx. Or, you can just "unload" VDAT's "tape", open the audio files in Reaper, and render a mix there. Just line up each audio file at the beggining. To join two mono files into one stereo, you can use the free app interleaver (it's on the "other" VDAT thread).

Easy!

Good luck!

T

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:39 pm

I decided to download Goldwave, and a free wav to mp3 converter.

Goldwave played back through the 24 bit WAV drivers sounds O.K., but as Astro mentioned earlier that VDAT magic disappears. But the quality is O.K. for demo purposes.

My problem was when Goldwave went to the mp3 converter, it has major clicks, pops, and warbles like an old Roland Space Echo.

At least I have VDAT finished.

I am very pleased w/ VDAT's quality.

I decided to make demos of everything I use from 3rd party, SDK, and CW / SC.

This demo is a solo Rhodes number using MCCY's FluLiq.

It sounds so new and fresh. There's no similar effect that I am aware of that has that Liquid shimmer.

My Rhodes cannot be used anymore w/o that effect being inserted, and of course the Wax-S Wah-Wah, and Pro Vintage Delay.

I have never had the total Zawinul package until recently.

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:39 am

If ya want to keep the VDAT sound then why not route back into VDAT and then convert the resulting wave to mp3 using Lame

Post by **garyb** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:12 am

basically what he did...goldwave was just a batch converter using LAME...

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:13 am

sweet

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:20 am

so yuo are saying that vdat sounds better?? how?? is that possible at all?
in what ways does it sound better?
i'm not saying that i dont believe you, i just want to know the difference

thanks!

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:42 am

to be honest, I find that pretty strange, too - and I admit I don't really have a clue about the reason.
That's how I noticed it:
someone sent me a file showing the operation of a Boss Bass Eq pedal, a dry file without the pedal and another one with fx applied.
I tried to build a similiar setup with Scope EQ, sending the dry file to a dedicated FX chain. It was easy to a/b/c listen and I came to a point where I found the Scope EQ more pleasing, while retaining the character of the file.
It was more detailed, more pronounced.

To transmit the file I had to make an mp3 from it, so I opened it in Reaper and let it render the thing.
After that I wasn't able to tell the 'Boss-processed' from the Scope version anymore - but within Scope I clearly could hear the difference.
Needless to mention that was 16bit 44.1k and of course not the lowest bitrate available

cheers, Tom

Post by **garyb** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:52 pm

vdat is really good.

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:38 pm

the19thbear wrote:so yuo are saying that vdat sounds better?? how?? is that possible at all?
in what ways does it sound better?
i'm not saying that i dont believe you, i just want to know the difference
thanks!

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... light=vdat

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:39 pm

It's too bad that there are not CC's attached to the transport controls.

Being able to trigger a segue by hitting a key is a great feature.

I do this in Giga w/ no sweat, and to be honest live, the difference isn;t that noticable probably. But in a live " solo" enviroment being able to trigger sections of strings during piano solos, in an Orchestral venue of course, would be a serious weapon.

wolf · Post by **wolf** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:30 am

scope4live wrote:It's too bad that there are not CC's attached to the transport controls.

Either use VRC or ask kindly a dev to make it for you:
http://www.wolf-audio.com/wad/scope-dp/ ... n_out.html

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:10 pm

Ladies And Gentlemen,................................Wolf

........Ankyu,.......Ankyu.

I will check this out.

Thanks Brotha' Man Wolf.

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:08 pm

I too am interested in this VDAT sounds better thing. I have yet to see any proof.

I am pretty confident in that a file recorded in VDAT will sound the same played back (pre-mixer) from REAPER given you use some form of 32-bit ASIO driver.

I am pretty sure this applies to recording in REAPER too.

When auditioning audio files, you are most likely using some form of mixer. This should be added into the equation.