This Is How They Do It On The Big Jobs

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This Is How They Do It On The Big Jobs

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Check it out.

http://www.learngigastudio.com/forum/sh ... .php?t=817


I would only change the Mr. Ray Wurlitzer. I have the Gigastudio library from Scarbee, W.E.P. has the old bubbly timbre when higher velocities are used.

Larry has cut off all of his hair? I guess he had to go to court or something, and he didn't want the book thrown at him. :D
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Post by MD69 »

Hi,

The geniuus is in his hand, not the equipment!

cheers
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he's sophisticated, a great craftsman, 100% spot on the job, I bet he gets productions done at the speed of light...
but that Birth of a Song is a musical zero in my ears and in my heart

it's a great (sad) example to where 'inflation' eventually leads...
let's pick one of these, another one of that, and there we have another catchy, plus the great sound of..., let's add a cheezy guitar via the superplug... :roll:

for my humble taste you can do a more inspiring job by typing 5 letters for a chord sequence and then let Band_in_a_Box fill out the rest, if you take care at the instrumentation.

I know that it's a matter of taste and sounds (available via the PC) can be inspiring - but I question the clip documents exactly that...
it's less about working out the idea of a 'song' but about the production of muzak.
sorry and with all respect, but that's just mho ;)

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Post by H-Rave »

I'm sorry I wasn't sure, But I think you're right There's no Musical Progression, He sounds like he's playing the same Key for minute and a half, Shoving things on top as goes along.Technically excellent, I find it a shame he didn't use the video for something more productive.

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Post by MD69 »

Hi

Glad to hear you are better then him! For me, I'll be happy to set up a drum line as fast and as easily as he do!

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Post by dawman »

I think he was just trying to show virtual musicians how easy it is to throw something together using his new instruments.

LSAD, and LSUB ( acoustic drums, and upright bass ) are incredible libraries if one needs acoustic instruments. These new VST / RTAS versions are smaller but I am sure quite fierce.

The Montineri Snare Drum w/ the embedded Gigapulse reverb is incredible. Press and Buzz rolls on this can kill a P4, but with the right triggers it's as close to a real snare that a virtual one could get.
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scope4live wrote:I think he was just trying to show virtual musicians how easy it is to throw something together using his new instruments...
yes, that's exactly what I wanted to say... throw something together
without the slightest doubt he's a technically brilliant performer and in full control of what he's doing in the clip (...which is of course a simple piece of advertisement and not some high flying artistic attempt...) ;)

but nevertheless this clip was a perfect example why such a lot of current music lacks a special 'atmosphere' - it's all well polished, perfectly balanced, superdynamic sound.
Not sure if you remember the German group Can from the 70s - they did not only make a special kind of music, but all that happened in a very special acoustic environment, too.
Kraftwerk never sounded like the wild boys from Duran Duran and you could tell Madonna records from Whitney Huston's just by the soundstage.

the omnipresence of high-class-affordable-library stuff seems to wash out all individual marks of the music, the sequencer with it's juggling replacement engine adding it's part.
You're welcome to laugh at me but that stuff below really amazed me - and it eventually explained (to me) why that Casio beast is so expensive...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSonirzZ5yg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh1eH66UgGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2KRjNiiTnE

noticed the little keyboard over the big Korgs ? :lol:
and btw that CZ101 is an 8 voice, no velocity, no aftertouch sensitive toy
dunno how the dude in the first link squeezes that expression out of the board

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Post by dawman »

It is how you play....while you are listening to others.

I know exactly what you're saying Astro.

I love playing solo piano, as it is way more dynamic and challenging than laying down drum tracks, adding bass, etc. I personally avoid that myself because I then must conform my keyboard technique to the rhythm tracks, which is fine if it's other people playing, but when it's all you it takes out the " live " ingredients too much for me.

When I do virtual recordings, oddly enough, I have to play the bass and rhythm keyboard parts first simultaneously, then delete the virtual bass track as I add the drum tracks. This at least gives the keyboard rhythm track that spontaneous live feel that I add further tracks of rhythm to. That's just my way of doing things, and I detest quantizing anything. I did that years back with the snappy ppq's of the QX-1 sequencer and grew weary of it's perfections rather quickly.

It just seems that the farther we get advanced with technology, the further away we get from real performances.

I notice that from my recent sparse gigs that I do. I drug my rig down to the Blues bar a week ago and didn't use my synths once. Just the B3, EP's, Pianos, and section sounds. It was so simple yet beautiful.

I really need to do this more. My quest for cash cause's sterility as my roots were live improv. I just wish I could get more than a face full of Jager when I jam there.
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Post by tgstgs »

your welcome to laugh at me too!!

i man whatch the birth video up to minute 3 go back to 1.55 cant belive what i see and hear
and whatch it about 40-50 times for the next few seconds;
even if this a simple beat i cant belive how perfect it sounds plaid with finger on keyboard;
thisfor alone this man is a genius at work!
but . .
i have the strange feeling that what i see is not what i hear;
why did he play the sd intro in the region of c3 rest on (looks like e1 should be d1);
second beat of the lefthand bd seems to be not syncron with sound;
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is it possible to download and whatch pic by pic somehow??

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Post by Immanuel »

tgstgs wrote:is it possible to download and whatch pic by pic somehow??
Maybe I misunderstand you, but does that make any sense if you can not listen "pic by pic"? :)
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Post by wayne »

stardust wrote: but thats a matter of taste I guess
I wish I was as easily amused as Mr Seyer. I'd get things done damn quick, that's a fact ;)
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Post by tgstgs »

@stardust
find only a mp3 audio no video why??
am i bad to think bad?
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dont know how this flash thing work ??
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@Immanuel

dont know how you syncronise a sound to video but
f.e.
in nuendo
you see the pics and you see the peaks spezialy drum is no probl. to sync or better say whatch if its sync

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wouldnt have wrote a word but i tried to put in midi with a keyboard over years;
short story: its easier to put in via mouse!
so very !! very deep respect if someone does so perfect!
for this 10 secunde hes my hero!!
->
i now using a roli v-drum btw!

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Post by tgstgs »

thanx;
to much work _ i dont need this flash
->
so official he will stay my hero;
and im bad;

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Post by MD69 »

Hi

BTW, Mr Ray seventy three MarkII is even better then the previous version!

Worth a try:
http://www.soundfonts.it

cheers

Michel
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Post by MD69 »

Than ks stardust, corrected now (forgot the s in the end)

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