Particle Physics

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:08 pm

Revised Yet Again

This is something I'm currently working on. It's a small orchestral piece. I'm doing something differently than I usually do in that it is all midi and no audio tracks. I'm using the Garritan Personal Orchestra for this. I haven't mixed it with the SFP yet. I'll add a tempo track to make it sound more human but I find it is best to do that last because when I change sections around, the tempo track will be off. It's also easier to play to when the tempo is steady.

Post by **Neil B** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:25 pm

Some really nice moods and textures in this - I like it, especially as I'm having GPO soon. Not sure about the piano though - I thought it a bit too harsh or heavy on the velocity.
Keep up the good work

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:07 am

Thanks,

That is the GPO piano. It is not particularly good. I will be replacing it later. Any one of these instruments could use a lot more sample data. When you look at the sample size and length and velocity switching (not sure if there is any) of each individual instrument in the GPO, it is very pathetically small. To do an orchestra justice, you need many gigabytes of data. It's maxing out my system now though. This is with 16 GPO instruments. Considering that an orchestra normally has about 300 musicians, it would be quite a challenge to make a symphony with this stuff. I would certainly have to bounce a lot of audio.

Herr Voigt · Post by **Herr Voigt** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:45 pm

Nice little try.
The piano doesn't sound too harsh to me.
You could spread the panorama a little bit, i.e. the double basses more right.
The contra-bassoon sounds a bit strange. Try to put it more into the background and use a LPF.
How big is an orchestra? 150 musicians is very big. With this amount of people you could play the big german romantic stuff - Bruckner, Mahler, Strauss.
300 musicians - well, there may exist some events where such a huge amount of musicians come together. But it is always an exception.
And don't forget: The strings are groups of musicians - that reduces your sequencer tracks drastically. With your DAW you should be able to produce a Mozart symphony without bouncing. Look into such a score.

Cheers!

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:20 pm

I'm having trouble placing the bassoon yet I want to use it. A new friend of mine plays bassoon and she is very cute.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:22 am

Revised now if anyone cares to listen again. I think I will do the intro over tomorrow though. The random section make sit sound more modern.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:44 pm

I like this a lot!

One suggestion that comes to mind: You have 2 separate pieces here, the orchestral one and the waltz. You could develop each on their own. Although, the waltz seems to be a finished product as is.

Same comment as you Braincell..the orchestral samples....

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:53 pm

Thanks Paul,

I sort of rushed the ending of it since I wanted to have something done by Christmas. The ending was just all improvised and I merely deleted a few notes that didn't sound right since I posted this. Someone else made the same comment about the end being slightly out of place from someone else. I fully intend to add similar orchestration over the piano part in places.

It's GPO, I'm thinking about getting East West Symphonic Orchestra (EWQLSO Gold Bundle.)

Well East West SoundsOnline pissed me off because I placed an order Friday and they never told me it was out of stock until I called.

After speaking with a salesman at Sweetwater, I decided to go with Viena Symphony Library Special Edition.

I like it more because the articulations and module is more advanced, also instead of making you login to their site for DRM, it uses the Syncrosoft dongle (yes!). They give you a bunch of extra samples which cost $500 more and you can use them for 30 days but you can never remove them from your hard drive and it takes up 54 gigs (boo!).

Well, maybe the price will go down later.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:44 am

This is again brilliant!

Soul stirring!

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:29 pm

Thanks a lot! I'll get off my ass now and do more. I am about the most lazy bastard there is.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:37 am

I beg to differ. That trophy's mine....

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:46 am

braincell wrote:Considering that an orchestra normally has about 300 musicians.

You're seeing double twice, Braincell.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:58 am

Right, it is 90 but some of them are polyphonic.

Post by **hubird** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:19 am

or even multitimbral

Post by **obama2008** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:10 am

Wow, so much stuff going on here. I've listened to a few tracks on the forum today that just repeat the same synthline over and over til the very end. What we need is more music like this. This is the only real keeper for the day. Thank you for sharing.