Lexicon seems to update pcm series:
http://www.lexiconpro.com/Promo_Downloa ... 0Sheet.pdf
nice.
Lexicon PCM96
Lexicon PCM96
just seen this:
Lexicon seems to update pcm series:
http://www.lexiconpro.com/Promo_Downloa ... 0Sheet.pdf
nice.
Lexicon seems to update pcm series:
http://www.lexiconpro.com/Promo_Downloa ... 0Sheet.pdf
nice.
You mean DigiTech ?
This is an attempt to get guys who love the old PCM's to take a look.
I am sure the price will be cheaper than a real PCM, but I doubt they are putting forth much effort as it will only work in 32bit apps. Which is fine, but not very forward looking now is it.
On ebay dozens of those weak MX series need to be sold, so I bet this was an attempt to use a great series's logo to keep their name alive.
I just listened again to an old recording I did with the PCM70. Now there's a real PCM. Harman is doing a good job at keeping the Lexicon alive by name. But those algo's don't sound very good when knock-off Lexi chips are being used.
To be honest, my PCM91, and PCM81 sound grand. But the old Lexicon PCM70 still has not been digitally replaced IMO. It's 20bit sound coming from analog I/O's is just so deep and rich.
Check out eBay's prices on these as some are going for very, very cheap. 500-600 USD !!
I spent 2500 USD replacing it w/ the 91, and the 81, just so I could use AES / EBU's into Scope.
I mourn it's sale now.
This is an attempt to get guys who love the old PCM's to take a look.
I am sure the price will be cheaper than a real PCM, but I doubt they are putting forth much effort as it will only work in 32bit apps. Which is fine, but not very forward looking now is it.
On ebay dozens of those weak MX series need to be sold, so I bet this was an attempt to use a great series's logo to keep their name alive.
I just listened again to an old recording I did with the PCM70. Now there's a real PCM. Harman is doing a good job at keeping the Lexicon alive by name. But those algo's don't sound very good when knock-off Lexi chips are being used.
To be honest, my PCM91, and PCM81 sound grand. But the old Lexicon PCM70 still has not been digitally replaced IMO. It's 20bit sound coming from analog I/O's is just so deep and rich.
Check out eBay's prices on these as some are going for very, very cheap. 500-600 USD !!
I spent 2500 USD replacing it w/ the 91, and the 81, just so I could use AES / EBU's into Scope.
I mourn it's sale now.
Warp69 to the rescue.
I have no experience with these new " Lexicons " from Harman. I have a friend who is a rather well known rep from there who claims they are the bomb.
But he has said the same thing about certain dancers here in LV, so when we go to give him a ride back to his room and see the girl or girls that were so smokin' hot, we had to ask him are you O.K.?
To each his own I suppose.
As far as the MX series is concerned. They were thrown together rather quickly, and really do not have the Lexi sound IMO. You would be better off buying a cheap ass MPX550, or MPX1. Those and others from the MPX series sound pretty decent for the price.
But 96k ? It should sound good.
What say you Warp69??
I saw Warp's list of hardware reverbs last week and must say, I was shocked.
I was glad to see a fellow gearslut, but his list is quite extreme.
He too suffers from a similar addiction many of us share.
I would love to see anything new from him, as only someone who possesses such ample amounts of quality gear could ever make one.
A 960L? You are very sick.
I have no experience with these new " Lexicons " from Harman. I have a friend who is a rather well known rep from there who claims they are the bomb.
But he has said the same thing about certain dancers here in LV, so when we go to give him a ride back to his room and see the girl or girls that were so smokin' hot, we had to ask him are you O.K.?
To each his own I suppose.
As far as the MX series is concerned. They were thrown together rather quickly, and really do not have the Lexi sound IMO. You would be better off buying a cheap ass MPX550, or MPX1. Those and others from the MPX series sound pretty decent for the price.
But 96k ? It should sound good.
What say you Warp69??
I saw Warp's list of hardware reverbs last week and must say, I was shocked.
I was glad to see a fellow gearslut, but his list is quite extreme.
He too suffers from a similar addiction many of us share.
I would love to see anything new from him, as only someone who possesses such ample amounts of quality gear could ever make one.
A 960L? You are very sick.
Jimmy,
so you basically say the mx series is weaker than the old mpx series?
I had one of those mpx, i think it was the 100 or 200? donno, but I didn`t like it. It had too light density, so it didn`t work with percussion sound.
Altough it worked okay for other sounds, I`ve sold it.
I think both the mx and mpx series are their lower end gear.
I`m sceptical also about the pcm96, but I guess if they name it like this they want to satisfy PCM91/90/80/81 users and if these recognize that it is a Lexicon branded digtech reverb, it will totally fail on market.
So I guess it will be good sounding but also more expensive than their mx low end gear.
so you basically say the mx series is weaker than the old mpx series?
I had one of those mpx, i think it was the 100 or 200? donno, but I didn`t like it. It had too light density, so it didn`t work with percussion sound.
Altough it worked okay for other sounds, I`ve sold it.
I think both the mx and mpx series are their lower end gear.
I`m sceptical also about the pcm96, but I guess if they name it like this they want to satisfy PCM91/90/80/81 users and if these recognize that it is a Lexicon branded digtech reverb, it will totally fail on market.
So I guess it will be good sounding but also more expensive than their mx low end gear.
I DOUBT IT.
Harman realises that there are many posers . The MX and MPX are weak in comparison to the PCM's. I love the two I have now, but the sound of the 480's 224's, and that lovely PCM70, and the PCM80 also were just downright gorgeous. The PCM91, and PCM81 were the last of a dying breed of Lexicon IMO.
But when I go to music stores I am shocked at what people think sound good. And the demos they are given are so weak to begin with. When the MX series was released I was very interested, but after a short demo, I couldn't believe that guys were saying " If you want that Lexicon sound, you gotta get one of these". Ya'll can suck my ass, that dog don't hunt.
If the general public had the knowledge and ears of the new young crop of possible producers and artists that dwell here, these companies would try a little harder with their product lines. But they are aware of the power that names like Lexicon, and ProTools carry, and will continue to milk those noble names as long as people keep buying it. You can only repackage something so many times.
Harman realises that there are many posers . The MX and MPX are weak in comparison to the PCM's. I love the two I have now, but the sound of the 480's 224's, and that lovely PCM70, and the PCM80 also were just downright gorgeous. The PCM91, and PCM81 were the last of a dying breed of Lexicon IMO.
But when I go to music stores I am shocked at what people think sound good. And the demos they are given are so weak to begin with. When the MX series was released I was very interested, but after a short demo, I couldn't believe that guys were saying " If you want that Lexicon sound, you gotta get one of these". Ya'll can suck my ass, that dog don't hunt.
If the general public had the knowledge and ears of the new young crop of possible producers and artists that dwell here, these companies would try a little harder with their product lines. But they are aware of the power that names like Lexicon, and ProTools carry, and will continue to milk those noble names as long as people keep buying it. You can only repackage something so many times.
Re: Lexicon PCM96
Does anybody knows how to connect 2 x Lexicon PCM 91 to Scope Proffesional Card with Classic Plate ?
I guess one can be connect with SPDIF, but what about another one?
Thanks
I guess one can be connect with SPDIF, but what about another one?
Thanks
Re: Lexicon PCM96
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0297063038
BTW at NAMM '09 the new improved PCM96 is a real surround reverb and is much better than the first PCM96 that ebay has dozens of used. Everyone wants the real 6 channel one now.
And it does have the good Lexicon sound.
There's other converters, but having the Alesis allows you to have several effects.
They have an ancient Q20 reverb that sounds O.K. w/ ADAT I/O's if you can find one.
BTW at NAMM '09 the new improved PCM96 is a real surround reverb and is much better than the first PCM96 that ebay has dozens of used. Everyone wants the real 6 channel one now.
And it does have the good Lexicon sound.
There's other converters, but having the Alesis allows you to have several effects.
They have an ancient Q20 reverb that sounds O.K. w/ ADAT I/O's if you can find one.
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If the general public had the knowledge and ears of the new young crop of possible producers and artists that dwell here, these companies would try a little harder with their product lines. But they are aware of the power that names like Lexicon, and ProTools carry, and will continue to milk those noble names as long as people keep buying it. You can only repackage something so many times.[/quote]
When the general public listens to MP3s on earbuds it makes next to no difference if the reverb was made on a PCM70 or a tin can and string. Ok perhaps that's a bit extreme (or completely curmudgeonly wrong), but the sentiment remains. Today is not the reign of quality.
If the general public had the knowledge and ears of the new young crop of possible producers and artists that dwell here, these companies would try a little harder with their product lines. But they are aware of the power that names like Lexicon, and ProTools carry, and will continue to milk those noble names as long as people keep buying it. You can only repackage something so many times.[/quote]
When the general public listens to MP3s on earbuds it makes next to no difference if the reverb was made on a PCM70 or a tin can and string. Ok perhaps that's a bit extreme (or completely curmudgeonly wrong), but the sentiment remains. Today is not the reign of quality.
Re: Lexicon PCM96
And it is in our hands to change that...more or less.
Pcm 96 is a fine box and sure has that luxus lexi SCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH white noise reverb tail(if you dial it in) which i like very much for electronic music.Wish i could afford one...
Pcm 96 is a fine box and sure has that luxus lexi SCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH white noise reverb tail(if you dial it in) which i like very much for electronic music.Wish i could afford one...
Re: Lexicon PCM96
This is true for both sides of the coin, that's for sure.
But I really like the VST integration, sound quality and output configuration of this box.
The first PCM96 had integration problems, surround algo's w/a stero output?
Many bought it and complained like crazy, and I assumed it was another giant MPX profit maker, but the demo I heard at NAMM was really beautiful. I wish I didn't hear a difference but I do.
I am thinking how nice it would be using DSP verbs per channel as early reflectors and a nice surround hardware reverb like the 96 or KSP8 via the AES/EBU's in a Scope Project..........
Lawd HaMercy......
I blame my love for reverb on the old ancient 150 year old sewers on the River Des Peres in St.Louis where I grew up. The French landed there in early 1700's and their knowledge of giant sewers seemed to be carried over from old Paris. LaClede, DeSoto & Pierre Marquette have statues of them all over that old city. But as kids we wore rain boots and drove our bikes through a foot of water just to play our guitars and sing inside of these giant tunnels.
I even would hold my head just above the water as the reflections had a different sound there as opposed to the concrete walls.
So I love time based effects, and have been infected since I was riding a bike...
But I really like the VST integration, sound quality and output configuration of this box.
The first PCM96 had integration problems, surround algo's w/a stero output?
Many bought it and complained like crazy, and I assumed it was another giant MPX profit maker, but the demo I heard at NAMM was really beautiful. I wish I didn't hear a difference but I do.
I am thinking how nice it would be using DSP verbs per channel as early reflectors and a nice surround hardware reverb like the 96 or KSP8 via the AES/EBU's in a Scope Project..........
Lawd HaMercy......
I blame my love for reverb on the old ancient 150 year old sewers on the River Des Peres in St.Louis where I grew up. The French landed there in early 1700's and their knowledge of giant sewers seemed to be carried over from old Paris. LaClede, DeSoto & Pierre Marquette have statues of them all over that old city. But as kids we wore rain boots and drove our bikes through a foot of water just to play our guitars and sing inside of these giant tunnels.
I even would hold my head just above the water as the reflections had a different sound there as opposed to the concrete walls.
So I love time based effects, and have been infected since I was riding a bike...
Re: Lexicon PCM96
Since my last acquisition, I couldn't agree more!
Now that I hear the difference with the Rumour, compared to VST's, it's impossible for me not to be interested into hearing other "famous" devices, like Lexicons or Bricastis, and it's not contradictory to the parallel use of an Altiverb or a STW in projects.
Now that I hear the difference with the Rumour, compared to VST's, it's impossible for me not to be interested into hearing other "famous" devices, like Lexicons or Bricastis, and it's not contradictory to the parallel use of an Altiverb or a STW in projects.
Re: Lexicon PCM96
Except the FaultiVerb............ 
Re: Lexicon PCM96
The Altiverb might not be the high-end stuff for sure, compared to HW or S|C ones. And I forgot to name that excellent RSPV01 we can find in here (4 free), which is really good.
Another useful VST one but only if luckily you are equipped with some Quadcore is the SIR2 (noisevault.com).
Another useful VST one but only if luckily you are equipped with some Quadcore is the SIR2 (noisevault.com).
Re: Lexicon PCM96
I recently was pretty amazed about the reverb definition of the Rocktron Intellifex (blackface version) a reverb, delay, pitchshift, chorus, noise-gate multifx unit.Fluxpod wrote: ...Pcm 96 is a fine box and sure has that luxus lexi SCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH white noise reverb tail(if you dial it in) which i like very much for electronic music.Wish i could afford one...
It performed excellent on bass, without any mud - which was the most surprising experience.
No true spring-reverb emulation on board, but it hit that character perfectly - and also some of those kinda schhhhh tails (less noble than the Lexi probably...)
I said to myself '...you must be sick, wanting this thing despite a not so humble Scope rig at home...', but it's tone just convinced me - so I placed an option to purchase it soon.
Curiosity made me check some of Rocktrons more recent stuff, in particular the Utopia pedals...
omg - that was the most annoying plastic sh*t heard for a long time
The Intellifex is really old - do I see a parallel to Lexicon here ?
cheers, Tom
ps Fluxpod, this unit may be worth checking