Anyone Play Live Anymore ?

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:16 pm

I am guilty of playing along w/ sequencers, and had to fake an episode on the Rosie O'Donnel show, but these things are expected in " Show Biz ".
I am currently working on automated performances for this year, which has lined my pockets. But this summer I must get back to playing live with this awesome rig we have all created.
I watched an old recording of the Grateful Dead Live and though they sang slightly off key at times, and were quite ancient, they jammed. The one time I saw them live was a 4 hour show ! Cubase would have crashed from smoke and CPU heat.
Jamming over the top of a sequence for rehersals sake is a blessing, this and composition are the tools to learn and record with. But musicians should strive to sound better than their recordings in a live venue. I must return to my roots, as interaction of ideas live are more rewarding to me, than my recent automated world of financial sucsess.
I had better buy everything I need now, as the places I want to start playing again have little money, but free Jaeger.
Classical / Jazz / Rock w/ B2003, Bowen Synths, and Gigastudio.
SFP is a live mans dream, as well as producers/ recording artists desire.

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:11 am

Our regular electronic ambient free jam sessions with spheric lounge are a pure source of new ideas and inspiration for me.

When I jam , live or at my studio, I like to setup some self playing instruments, based on random generated sounds. Reaktor and Modular thingies.

I setup an ambient background sculpture to set myself into a world of sounds and add my uprising moods with pads or leads or whatever.

Live we have 10+ human random sound genarators and every track is a new world.

It is a special thrill when you look around and see the audience relaxing to your music, having small talks or just company you with serious listening in these worlds of random sounds.

And then there is this deep emotion when an improvised track ends and nobody says something, just feel the vanishing vibes and is contented, hmmm.

Last month we had over one terrabyte of traffic on our side, amazing.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:39 am

heh, I'm trying to get into jazz not that I want to end up as a jazz anything, but since it's such a great skill to have.. but of course, I'm far from performing, just in the basic stage of getting comfortable with different voicings and keys, basic stuff. But it's strange, I think I'm beginning to feel the transition from "sounding like any jazz" to actually thinking before playing and just "making it sound like how I want to make it sound".

Of course, on the richter scale I would still land myself in the pits of the "suck" zone, but the importance is that it's fun to practice, funny hear myself mess up, and feels really good when I get it just right. I think that's all there is to it.

And maybe me beig in NY has something to do with my jazz affection lately.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:45 am

You can't think when playing jazz; it has to come from your heart and your balls but not your brain.

Chris who is the guy with the Warr guitar? I want one!

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:31 am

well, "think", as in 'hear it in the head" was what I meant. Still, you got a point. Wished I could practice enough that I subconsciously can do lots of the stuff I'm consciously.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:49 am

live is where it's at.
the dead used sequencers in their later days quite a bit....it's show-biz. most artists are liars.....

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:55 pm

CWerner,
I need to see you live. Those are great ideas !! How, or in what way do you create the human random sound generators. A unique way of improvising, and also the simple reason that you watch your audience for reactions tells me you are on it. BTW your Oberheim OBX-c patch in Modular is just supreme IMHO, and I learned from it's creation, and punished many with it's sound.
This is an example of why I like to chat at da' " Z ". I was fishing 4 some ideas, or tales of inspiration, and i got a great idea from all of our responses, thank you.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:40 pm

It's called practice, once you repeat something enough times, it becomes second nature. It's nearly impossible to do the same thing twice which is why musicians are regarded as magicians:

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... 47/-1/news

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:56 am

Good Article Brotha' Man Braincell,
It explains scientifically why I feel so good when I jam w/ my favorite cats in LV @ some dive off the strip. Otherwise, I would never step into these foul establishments.
So you see, I walk away from this thread with an explanation, and a new way of thinking.

Sucsess,

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:04 am

Brother Jim - playin' a live show in Sydney at the moment, cranking out some moog/b3 bass on the Noah with a set of Roland PK-5 pedals.

Great thing is, when i got here i tracked a set down, payed too much probably, but next day i caught the Marrickville train in to town and ran into an old violinist mate who laid an identical set on me gratis

- now i have two octaves

I'm using that setup so i can play bass while playing trombone, or to fill in fast swaps from tuba to double bass.

Whole new world there with the Noah - enjoying that, vocoding brass is nice too.

I gotta get SFP on the road one of these days - Mehdi, Flexor & Bowen sounds live would be unheard of in Australia.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:40 pm

And a horn player w/ SFP live ! I gotta hear that. Can you use MIDI ? When you swell on the trombone have Bowen synths swell also, that would be radical.
I have a friend who plays sax, and MIDI's his swells to gigastudio horn emsembles, and it is a very convincing one man section. Keep jammin' Brotha' Man Wayne.

JV