Has Creamware done anything new

[jilhead]

Just wondering if Creamware ever designed any new hardware since 2002/2001. I recall they were looking into faster clockspeed DSP processors back then.

Is the platform dead?

No Creamware supported forum anymore.

[astroman]

look at announcements from India - are you an olympic poster ?

cheers, Tom

[irrelevance]

Hmm...I am not that euphoric.

Mr Frank H. spoke for one time in 2 years some nebulous vacant words in that thread.

He did that April 2005 as well.
And nothing overwhelming happened.

Es gibt nichts Gutes ausser man tut es.

I guess that depends on your point of view. ASB is certainley scoring well right now, while the upgrade to 4.5 was for me (at least) a moment of pure joy and rapture.

Indsp anouncement shows that tyhings are moving along and this hopefully means product/Scope evolution. Scope as a concept is a hard act to follow thgough. Faster chips and environment tweaks alone will not guarantee a winning product.

[Shroomz~>]

Well, they've (what looks like significantly) expanded their interests in R&D, produced new software for Scope, produced 4 different models of ASB box using new sharcs & presumably ARM processors (although I can't confirm the latter). Are also shipping the ASBs in various rackmount versions in the form of the 'Klangbox'. On top of these significant developments over the past few years, they HAVE actually got software development & porting rolling on new sharcs through creating the ASB line.

So, yes they have done new things & will undoubtedly continue to do so by the looks of it.

[Mr Arkadin]

Well no-one could ever accuse you being an optimist stardust

[jilhead]

I guess I'm talking about platform change here. It just seems to be a very long gap not to really progress technically. What I was hoping to see was a large leap in perfomance to match what we are seeing in CPUs.

To be quite honest, Creamware chocked my musical aspirations several years ago... recently the geek part of me was still impressed with the concept, and I just assumed things would progress.

[astroman]

I wouldn't deny that...
but the source might as well not be in technology, but to match the right team(s) at the proper location and simulataneously meet economic demands.
of course that leaves a grain of salt regarding local conditions - which do not seem to be competive any more - to make that a short sentence.

whatever, there are significant changes in DSP technology that would be a pain to implement in the current environment.
To 'patch' too much is always a bad idea - if resources allow (and it looks like that), a brand new start from the ground up is much more effective.

The 'good' program modules will survive anyway whatever the target chip is.
Just a couple of months ago I would have signed that native signal processing is still as humble (sounding) as a few years ago - with the release of NI's FM8 a significant progress is undeniable - for the listener...
With FPGA's like those used in the latest Fairchild consoles software becomes hardware, yielding an incredible price-performance-maintainance ratio.
An OS independancy would be highly appreciated, DRM has been mentioned recently, viewpoints have moved.

Impossible to fit all that (or even a part) into good old SFP - a follow-up matching SFP's current completeness may take it's time, but I see few reasons why it couldn't be done.

cheers, Tom

[Shroomz~>]

But is there a market for a 'new platform' ? I guess no.

If it's got XP, OSX & Linux support, then I'd guess yes (if it has the deeply modular architecture of SFP & also has a new sdk to run on the new chips)

No reason for doom & gloom just yet imo.

[garyb]

The potential to create extraordinary sound on that DSP.
The potential to enable unmatched flexibility on that DSP.

with new chips the sound will still be basically the same(good sound is good sound. the asb boxes are the same old scope even with the new chips). the old platform is still unmatched in versatility. there is no need for a new platform. new chips would be nice, i'd also like to see better hardware controller integration(ala mackie control) and pci-e cards(firewire's great, but not comparted to an internal card in my book, sorry), but why do i need a new platform when the current one has no competition?

[Shayne White]

I agree with GaryB, the Scope platform is pretty solid at this point (it was beginning with 3.1c). All we need are bugfixes + new chips + new PCI-E cards compatible with the latest Intel and Mac hardware. Those are the only things that I feel are negative about the current Scope line. Otherwise, we're doing pretty well.

I sure hope they're working to produce the above for next year.

Shane

[hubird]

agree, and hope so

[paulrmartin]

Is the platform dead?

No Creamware supported forum anymore.

The answer to the first question is "NO" I am still learning new way of using my Scope system and doubt I'll ever stop learning.

The second point is easy to answer: Why in God's name would Creamware spend time moderating a forum when all you need to know is right here on the Z?

Frank has posted a very promising annoucement. Just sit back and keep making music. Good things come to those who wait .

[pling]

...that new platform will still take a while to mature and replace a full SCOPE. But it has other talents which are really neat.

i am curious already!

my speculation: something between scope platform and virusTI

[dubcotics]

hi,

one of Creamware advirtising slogan back then was " future proof " , therefore, they maybe old but still meets today's standards and above, as competitors are now featuring what Creamware featured back then, stop the nonsense and start making music, do you have a record that we can listen out there?

regards,

didier,

pd: no offence intended