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Match Equalisation Software Question

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:55 pm
by Astral Fridge Magnet
Hello,

Anyone out there know of a match equaliser software or match mastering (if such a thing exists), preferably free that they would recommend? If not free, then that's ok too.
Though on the other hand, do they really work?
Just in case some of you don't know what I am on about, the idea is to play a commercial track that you like the sound of, the software makes analysis of the music and you can then copy/apply that setting to your own music.

Thanks

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:34 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Yes, it is available at www.audio-utopia.com

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:42 am
by Lima
the link doesn't work here :-(

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:18 am
by erminardi
Not free but both extremely powerful:

http://www.har-bal.com/ [only for equalization, I really like it!!!]

http://www.curioza.com/ [for all mastering chain]

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:37 am
by astroman
Lima wrote:the link doesn't work here :-(
the 'link' is an irony.... :D

but there is (or was...) in fact a product that does exactly what's requested above - I just can't remember the context, but it was real (and commercial).
Understandably, if you're in a business and time is money - otherwise an entire contradiction to work and creativity.
If you can't deal with it - leave it, one doesn't have to ;)

cheers, Tom
(hopelessly oldfashioned)

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:40 am
by BingoTheClowno
Lima wrote:the link doesn't work here :-(
:-) , I know! The company doesn't exist yet! :lol:

Seriously, I believe that the requested function is impossible to implement just by analysing the spectrum of a wave. There is no information about the original source amplitude level or equalisation in a WAV file!

There is a VST that extracts IMPULSE RESPONSES to model echo/reverb responses.

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:26 am
by Astral Fridge Magnet
The link didn't work (but as I read, the company doesn't exist yet!!!????).
I asked more or less the same question on another music forum and was told Ozone 3 by Izotope does what I am looking for. Any comments or users out there? If so, how good is it?

Thanks

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:33 am
by wayne
Tried Optimaster wizard?

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:43 am
by Astral Fridge Magnet
wayne wrote:Tried Optimaster wizard?
No. Never heard of it.

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:43 am
by Astral Fridge Magnet
Another question regarding Ozone 3. I went to the website to have a look and I see it is for 64 bit operating systems. Hopefully this isn't too dumb a question, but will it work on my 32 bit machines. If so, seeing it is for 64 bit, will working in 32 bit compromise the quality or efficiency?

Thanks

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:12 pm
by Lima
BingoTheClowno wrote:
Lima wrote:the link doesn't work here :-(
:-) , I know! The company doesn't exist yet! :lol:
:oops:

Hahaha Lol :lol:

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:15 pm
by Lima
astroman wrote:
Lima wrote:the link doesn't work here :-(
the 'link' is an irony.... :D

but there is (or was...) in fact a product that does exactly what's requested above - I just can't remember the context, but it was real (and commercial).
If I didn't remember bad, the IZOTOPE mastering tool has a similar function.

:lol: anyway

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:21 pm
by astroman
that 64 bit applies to the 'processing bits' of the calculation - it has nothing to do with a 64bit OS. CWA's old TripleDat (and the respective plugins) had 80 bit precision calculations > 10 years ago ;)
The company has a good reputation, but it's a 'regular' mastering suite where you choose the tools and how they are applied.

The system I referred to was based (most likely) on a convolution scheme and it analysed example tracks to extract their 'soundprint'.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:40 pm
by wayne
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote:
wayne wrote:Tried Optimaster wizard?
No. Never heard of it.
Hey man optimaster is a creamware mastering tool, and it has a "wizard" function which has a go at auto mastering for you.

Although it won't make Bach out of Laibach, or vice-versa, it has presets, and it makes your mix sound good.

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:58 pm
by ChrisWerner
I think Steinbergs Freefilter went in that direction in the past.
You play a ready song through freefilter and freefilter keeps the spectrum information.

After that you could use/laying this profile on your own tracks.

It´s an old plug and I never tried it.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:58 am
by pseudojazzer
One of the voxengo plugs does that as well (i think its the curve EQ, but dont quote me on that!)

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:09 am
by Tau
Izotope's Ozone 3 has a matching EQ, and it works well in 32-bit systems. It's also very capable on many other mastering functions, but I believe that Har-Bal can help you more in doing what you want! Give the demo a try, I think it's really cheap for what it can do!

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:26 am
by Lima
Tau wrote:Izotope's Ozone 3 has a matching EQ, and it works well in 32-bit systems.
Yes, now I remember :-)

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:13 am
by erminardi
I use har-bal, masterverb pro, optimaster, waves stereo imager, psyq and waves L3 for my mastering chain.
Before I was using all waves tdm plugins, but I think that Optimaster, despite his 3 bands, sounds better (less "software") than waves LinMB/C4 (5 bands).
I'm looking for UAD Precision Multiband & Precision Limiter but actually I'm ok with Creamware.
Har-bal is really amazing as comparison lin EQ and/or simply as EQ...the auto gain feature is very useful when U compare your work with any other audio reference.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:46 pm
by Michu
voxengo curveq indeed, also one of spaceboy's plugins does that