Asio Trouble???

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:47 pm

Hello PlanetZ!

After a long long time and lots of money i've finally managed to
build a new D.A.W for the crew.

But im having troubles.

Cubase will detect my ASIO...
But when i expand to 4 or even 30 channels,
Cubase seems oblivious to it.
I can only find the main channels.
Anything above the 2 main channels goes unoticed by Cubase it seems.

This is the first time something like this
has ever happened, and amazingly this is the only problem we have right now.

Anyone?

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The New P.T.C-Crew D.A.W Setup

MOBO: Asus. P4P800/GD, Intel i865PE, GLAN, DDR400, Socket 478

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Prescott 3.0GHz FSB800, 1MB Cache Socket 478

RAM: Kingston, Dual Channel 2x512 MB PC3200 DDR400 KVR400X64C3AK2/1G
(x2 making it 2GB's of memory)

ROM: NEC ND-3550, DVD±RW, Dual Layer, Black

HDD1 MAIN: Western Digital, Raptor 360ADFD, 36GB, SATA, 10000Rpm 16MB
Mounted in 5.25" slot with Sharkoon HD Vibe-Fixer 2 together with Q-Tec 3.5" HDD Cooler. [Quiet and cool]

HDD2 AUDIO: Western Digital, Caviar 800JD, 80GB, SATA, 8 MB
Also mounted in 5.25" slot with Sharkoon HD Vibe-Fixer 2 together with Q-Tec 3.5" HDD Cooler. [Quiet and cool]

PSU: ThermalTake, Silent PurePower Series 680Watt, Active PFC

CW Card 1: Pulsar2

CW Card 2: Powersampler

Fan1: 40x40cm fan powered with 5.0 volts for low noise operation.
Function: to cool NEC DVD-ROM burner

Fan2: 40x40cm fan powered with 5.0 volts for low noise operation.
Function: to suck hot air out of upper 5.25 HDD compartments.

Fan3: 80x80xm fan powered with 12 volts.
Function: to cool CW cards. They deserve it.

Case: Chieftec ATX full tower
Modifications: Heavily dampened with layers of soft and hard antiphon material for
non-vibration and low noise enviroment.
Power, reset buttons and LED's removed from the front and refited on the back of the chasis.
Professionally painted for scratch resistant surface.

OS: Windows XP Pro ServicePack 2

Software: SFP 3, Cubase SX 1 (updated to 1.3), FruityLoops 5.0, SoundForge 7.0, and more...

Nice!!!

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:43 pm

have you tried adding busses in vst connections?

[ This Message was edited by: H-Rave on 2006-08-01 14:44 ]

Post by **garyb** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:06 pm

yes, you must add busses in the vst connections window.

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:24 am

On 2006-08-01 13:53, stardust wrote:
in sx 3 you have to set the I/O explicitely ?!

I have Cubase SX1 upgraded to Cubase 1.3.
Same version as i've always used.

On 2006-08-01 14:43, H-Rave wrote:
have you tried adding busses in vst connections?

[ This Message was edited by: H-Rave on 2006-08-01 14:44 ]

On 2006-08-01 18:06, garyb wrote:
yes, you must add busses in the vst connections window.

I would if i could.

I add ASIO Source in SFP. I then add channels to say 6 channels!
Then i go into Cubase SX and to "Devices/VST Outputs" like i always do.
But here there are only BUS 1 showing.
Doesen't matter how many busses i add in SFP.
Cubase is totally oblivious!

What is going on!
My new hardware shouldn't be a problem. Or could it?
And i run the same software setup as before i got this new hardware.

aaw man...this whole problem is just so stupid...

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[ This Message was edited by: Jngaelin on 2006-08-02 08:30 ]

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:00 am

press the 'Add Buss' button under either the 'inputs' or 'outputs' tab in the 'Devices/VST Connections' window. A small window will pop up allowing you to select mono or stereo buss config, after which, press 'ok'. You've now added a new mono or stereo buss in your cubase project.

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:14 am

On 2006-08-02 09:00, Shroomz wrote:
press the 'Add Buss' button under either the 'inputs' or 'outputs' tab in the 'Devices/VST Connections' window. A small window will pop up allowing you to select mono or stereo buss config, after which, press 'ok'. You've now added a new mono or stereo buss in your cubase project.

I dont even have the "Devices/VST Connections" option.

Im gonna try to reinstall Cubase now.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:25 am

No, I meant go to 'devices' (one of the main drop down menus at the top) then select 'VST connections' & a large window will appear where you should be able to see your input & output busses under 2 separate tabbed sections (tabs are at the top left) If you don't have this maybe your on an older version of SX. What I'm describing applies to SX version 2. It's ages since we used an older version of SX, so I can't comment if that's what you're using.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:26 am

oops sorry dude, I just noticed you're using SX 1.3, my mistake

Sorry, I can't help.

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:15 pm

It's cool Shroomz!

Because i found it!!!!

It was in the Devices/device setup/VST Multitrack section,
where one chooses wich kind of driver should be used for
"multitracking".
Well i set it to ASIO Scope as it should be.
But when i checked it again it set itself back to
"ASIO Multimedia"?!?!
I set it back to ASIO Scope and then pressing "Apply".
Everything seemed okay but then suddenly i would loose all channels
accept 2 !?!?!
I performed this procedure over and over again with the same results.

Cubase would end up setting it back to "ASIO Multimedia"!!!??

I didn't think something like this would even be possible!!
I mean the whole system didn't freeze or reebot.

Now i reeinstalled Cubase without updating it with the 1.3 version,
and everything works like a charm!!!!

Have anyone of you experienced this kind of bizzare behaviour before?

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[ This Message was edited by: Jngaelin on 2006-08-02 14:16 ]

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:41 pm

Ah, cool that you fixed it

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:29 am

The others in the crew apreciate it to!

We haven't had a D.A.W to work with since
September last year.
It was at this time everything just went
straight to hell.

Thank you all for your help!
As usuall planetz people stand up for one
and other.

Finaly we can now continue with the projects
that were supposed to be finished last year.
And also.. the new P.T.C-Crew webb page will be updated shortly!

valis · Post by **valis** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:07 am

Btw 1.6 was the 'best' version for Cubase SX 1.x. In fact 1.6 was the most stable ver for many people until 3.2, at least in my experiences.

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:13 am

3.2 ?

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:50 am

On 2006-08-03 04:07, valis wrote:
Btw 1.6 was the 'best' version for Cubase SX 1.x. In fact 1.6 was the most stable ver for many people until 3.2, at least in my experiences.

Thanx Valis!
I'll be shure to try it out!

AIY · Post by **AIY** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:29 am

On 2006-08-02 14:15, Jngaelin wrote:

Cubase would end up setting it back to "ASIO Multimedia"!!!??

I didn't think something like this would even be possible!!
I mean the whole system didn't freeze or reebot.

Now i reeinstalled Cubase without updating it with the 1.3 version,
and everything works like a charm!!!!

Have anyone of you experienced this kind of bizzare behaviour before?

Glad you solved it by yourself my friend.

The problem you've encountered is because of the following:

The average user normally require 2 ASIO channels (1 stereo pair).
But you where adding additional stereo pairs if i remember it correctly.
The thing is that when you open your project in SCOPE it's not certain that the program loads up the correct number of ASIO channels, so when you load up Cubase, the expected ASIO setup is nowhere to be found and as a result of that it reverts to the only thing it knows will exist (the included generic crappy-ASIO multimedia driver) as a sort of 'patch' that prevents cubase from crashing totally.

I've had this problem with my fruity ASIO loop a couple of times now, mostly because i forget to load up my ASIO template in scope prior to loading the project in fruity, but it's more of an annoyance than a real malfunction.

AIY

[Edited some formatting]

[ This Message was edited by: AIY on 2006-08-21 09:34 ]

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:30 am

On 2006-08-21 10:54, stardust wrote:
On 2006-08-04 04:13, H-Rave wrote:
3.2 ?

alright 3.1.1.944 is the last version....and is stable

Aaah!

That would explain why i couldn't find 3.2

And oh..
Be shure to welcome AIY to the comunity.
He is a close friend of mine and also a P.T.C-Crew member!

Happy to see you here man!
How are those Pulsar boards workin out for you?
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[ This Message was edited by: Jngaelin on 2006-08-21 11:32 ]

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:59 am

On 2006-08-21 10:54, stardust wrote:
On 2006-08-04 04:13, H-Rave wrote:
3.2 ?

alright 3.1.1.944 is the last version....and is stable

and 3.2 would hopefully be more stable eh? Sorry I was thinking 3.02. I actually have (and occasionally use) Nuendo 3.2.x here rather than Cubase, perhaps I was confused. Anyway my point was that the 2.x versions didn't seem to fare as well as 1.x, but now the current 3.x versions are stable (as stardust says)

I wonder when SX will achieve code parity with Nuendo again (aside from Nuendo's features)?

AIY · Post by **AIY** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:35 am

Happy to see you here man!
How are those Pulsar boards workin out for you?

The boards are all fine here. I'm really busy so i can't play around to much though.

AIY

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:53 am

Welcome on board AIY