pc freezes

ARCADIOS · Post by **ARCADIOS** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:48 pm

hello guys!
WHAT IS HAPPENING AGAIN??
in ther middle of recording midi with sixstring on nuendo2 the pc freezed!
reminded me older days of not sleeping trying to fix it.
i send midi filtered from midi to sequencer and sequencer sends filtered midi to six string, i also had two other vst plugins loaded on the project inside nuendo(ASIO2, 24bit-48khz). it freezed when i played with sixstring.
what is it again?

when i was in standard pc i didint need even filter.... what is the thing that makes the difference between acpi and standard pc?
or it is not an acpi problem?
help......... i will start playing san andreas to kill some people

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[ This Message was edited by: ARCADIOS on 2005-11-24 12:57 ]

Post by **garyb** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:34 pm

again, check system information and check for irq sharing.

ARCADIOS · Post by **ARCADIOS** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:43 pm

[Conflicts/Sharing]

Resource Device
I/O Port 0x0000A000-0x0000AFFF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x0000A000-0x0000AFFF RADEON X800 Series

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF RADEON X800 Series

IRQ 16 RADEON X800 Series
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE

Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF RADEON X800 Series

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF RADEON X800 Series

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB RADEON X800 Series

[IRQs]

Resource Device Status
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 16 RADEON X800 Series OK
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE OK
IRQ 19 Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller OK
IRQ 22 Creamware Scope OK
IRQ 23 Creamware Pulsar2 OK
IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 12 Microsoft PS/2 Port Mouse (IntelliPoint) OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 18 Intel(R) 82801ER SATA RAID Controller OK
IRQ 3 Intel(R) 82801EB SMBus Controller - 24D3 OK
IRQ 17 Realtek AC'97 Audio OK

can you see any problems?

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[ This Message was edited by: ARCADIOS on 2005-11-24 13:51 ]

ARCADIOS · Post by **ARCADIOS** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:49 pm

is this enough to understand if there is any serious conflict?

ARCADIOS · Post by **ARCADIOS** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:26 pm

thanks.
i will test it.
but what about standard pc? how come and it is more stable?

Post by **hubird** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:08 pm

wish standard was standard...

ARCADIOS · Post by **ARCADIOS** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:14 pm

well! i feel very happy.

i will write also about that in general discussion.
i think that i have found a big solution to many of my problems.
i am on acpi and i have just disabled hyperthreading from bios.
now that i am writting i have.........
1.mcafee full running because i am interneted
2.scope running "without" midi filters and prodyssey connected to sequencer (nuendo2).
3.nuendo rewired with
a.reason b.rebirth c.fl studio.
now playing tracks all together rewired and a recorded midi channel gives signal to prodyssey and it plays.
never had so stable system before.
and to tell you something, if i just try to enable hyperthreading in bios the system will not be able to make it with 3 rewired programs because of big crackles and stops and rebirth does not even load. hyperthreading does not let the midi work without filters, it just freezes pc after a while. now i do not have filters even if my keyboard sends all that bad staff(clock, etc).
i will try it a little more but i think it is just perfect.
just one question....
can this happen with hyperthreading enabled?
is there a fix in registry or somewhere, to give all this stabillity with hyperthreading enabled?

Post by **garyb** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:02 pm

yeah, hyperthreading is best turned off imho.

ARCADIOS · Post by **ARCADIOS** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:32 am

and to be more specific
i turned to standard pc. standard pc. standard pc. standard pc.
i have tryied so many times to make a stable music pc on acpi but i never made it.
i am not a pc programmer or technician.
i am a musician and follow my experience.
i wish someone could tell me about acpi and standard pc differences and irq settings.
now i have my two scope cards sharring the same irq 11. is there a general guide to follow about irqs?

LHong · Post by **LHong** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:58 pm

On 2005-11-27 10:32, ARCADIOS wrote:
and to be more specific
i turned to standard pc. standard pc. standard pc. standard pc.
i have tryied so many times to make a stable music pc on acpi but i never made it.
i am not a pc programmer or technician.
i am a musician and follow my experience.
i wish someone could tell me about acpi and standard pc differences and irq settings.
now i have my two scope cards sharring the same irq 11. is there a general guide to follow about irqs?

As far as I know, Within the Scope boards, shared IRQ would be fine, even when you have 3 boards. Do not worry.

Hope this helps,
LongStudio

[ This Message was edited by: LHong on 2005-11-27 15:59 ]

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:47 pm

On 2005-11-27 10:32, ARCADIOS wrote:
i wish someone could tell me about acpi and standard pc differences and irq settings.
now i have my two scope cards sharring the same irq 11. is there a general guide to follow about irqs?

In ACPI mode, Windows will completely ignore any IRQ setting you provide in the BIOS or anywhere else. The only way to influence IRQ settings in this situation is to move the PCI card to another slot, and/or turn off things that take up IRQs in the BIOS, and then hope XP will assign your cards to an unused IRQ. But even if there are spare IRQs, XP might assign 2 devices to the same IRQ. No idea what algo/logic they used to assign IRQs in this situation.

In Standard PC mode, you can turn off IRQ Steering, and *then* XP will honor the IRQ settings you provide. If you leave IRQ Steering on (the default setting) it'll behave the same as ACPI, except you'll have less IRQs available (ACPI goes up to 23 or 25, Standard PC goes up to like 15 or some such.)

General rule with IRQs and soundcards is to try and get the soundcard on its own IRQ, several Scope cards on the same IRQ should be alright like mentionned.