problem with pot movement 1

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Hello.
When i grab a knob and turn it,an effect, a volume or whatever, even if i move the mouse very little, the knob always makes a big turn before i can control it. the sound is ruined because it is not what i want to do.
i want to turn right cutoff knob just a little for example and after grabbing it with left mouse botton it moves much more than the move i make. after that i can control it but the first jump distroys the sound.
i wonder if there is something i can do with this problem. :sad:


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just click the control, so it's activated and then use the page-up, page-down keys to set the value.
the mouse dial could also be handy in this context.
otherwise you may want to adjust your mouse sensitivity.

cheers, Tom
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the closer your cursor is to the knob, the more dramatic the movement. after clicking on the knob and while holding the button down, move the cursor further from the knob for finer movements. rtm.
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thanks garyb, but that happens after the unexpected jump to 12 o'clock.
I suppose the best way is the mouse weel which becomes faster when you press ctrl.
In fact when you try to move a cycle knob after grabing it with left mouse botton, it always makes a jump to 12 o'clock. Always!
If you take the knob from 12 o'clock it does not matter because it was at the position of the false jump.
If you try turning the knob from 11 o'clock for example you will see the jump again, 12 o'clock first and then the correct position of the mouse pointer. if you grab a knob from 0, or from end, the jump is more obvious because 12 o'clock is fearther.
I can work with mouse weel, or page up, page down, or with num bottons, but there must be a fix for this.
Sliders are ok. Sliders do not make any jump to middle position when we try to move them with mouse.
I hope that there is a fix for that problem because in many cases mouse alone makes faster and more types(because of free hand) of movements.
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is there a fix for pot movement 1?
it is very convenient in controlling with mouse and better than pot movement 2 and vertical mvnt, ...but these 12 o'clock jumps are very obvious when the sound is continuous. very annoying.
it can be avoided by using mouse weel,
but mouse weel does not respond well on some switches and the solution there is pageup pagedown buttons.
but this shouldn't happen since pot movement 2 and vertical movement are grabbed perfectly with mouse.


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it matters WHERE you grab the pot...but otherwise, no, that's what happens. you can always assign a controller to the pot you need to move in realtime, it takes less than 10 seconds....
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no matter where you catch the pot the 12 o'clock jump 99% happen.
also, it does not have to do with mouse sensitivity.
asign to controller is good but it is something else.
see the difference from pot mvmt2 which is perfect but not the one i like.
pot mvmt1 is problematic a little.


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i suppose that this fault jump of the pots when using pot movement 1, is not easy to be fixed with a creamware small patch update.
probably it will be fixed in the future on the new sfp... sfp 5.0 or whatever.

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your observation about this pot movement one thing is absolutely correct - and it's likely to be a very basic 'feature', as it's consistent across all types** of controls, be it CWA or 3rd party stuff.
I assume there's an intention behind this, as the pot movement 2 doesn't suffer from the jump.

cheers, tom
** oops, bad choice of words - of course it's only a rotary feature, I actually meant any origin.

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it happens only on cycle pots.
it does not happen on sliders.
and since the same job is done with cycle knobs in some synths and with sliders with some other synths, i think that it is a small faulse.
when i say sliders i mean the "one line" pots.
is there a chance of having "fixes" in small problems that occur?

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