Hello
spacef.com is down because it is taking more time than expected to change the servers. It can take another 2/3 weeks (I will also be absent next week).
Anyway, all ongoing orders have been received and dispatched.
This is a direct link to user areas :
BlackBox : http://s-bonobos.nexenservices.com/spacef-area2005/
Echo 34:
http://s-bonobos.nexenservices.com/echo34-area/
After you have logged, bookmark those pages for further reference.
Sorry for the disagreement.
See you soon.
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SpaceF - Temporary links
the domain is available (but I am rebuilding the site slowly).
An update of BlacBox will be available in september, with AN-Osc 2 (small add-ons to an-osc 1), LBH Rack II (with feedback, to use them as new types of pattern delays), and an additional small pattern delay which will be available for free for Echo users too.
Bi-Osc, a new synth will also be available, probably for a very low upgrade price for all BB users (I will ask for 20 euros (instead of 99).
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An update of BlacBox will be available in september, with AN-Osc 2 (small add-ons to an-osc 1), LBH Rack II (with feedback, to use them as new types of pattern delays), and an additional small pattern delay which will be available for free for Echo users too.
Bi-Osc, a new synth will also be available, probably for a very low upgrade price for all BB users (I will ask for 20 euros (instead of 99).
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Hi Wayne,
yes you remind me that I found a few echo help files recently (most of them come from a php database that i had, and it is full of ascii characters...). I will make an effort to have them online soon.
BCR 2000+ Echo : I have thought about it many times but never managed to decide how to implement it. For ex, myself, I often use CC74 and 11 to control a filter and feedback at the same time (yes, with an expression pedal). but would this be ok with other people ?? I will try to do it for the next update, or may be open a special BCR 2000 section to be updated from time to time.
Best regards
Mehdi
yes you remind me that I found a few echo help files recently (most of them come from a php database that i had, and it is full of ascii characters...). I will make an effort to have them online soon.
BCR 2000+ Echo : I have thought about it many times but never managed to decide how to implement it. For ex, myself, I often use CC74 and 11 to control a filter and feedback at the same time (yes, with an expression pedal). but would this be ok with other people ?? I will try to do it for the next update, or may be open a special BCR 2000 section to be updated from time to time.
Best regards
Mehdi
Thanks, the help file would be great if you can do it. Echo is do deep (and wonderful!) I get a bit lost, but i'm learning...
Yes, controller setups are a very personal thing, so tricky to share. I don't use an expression pedal, but I do have a ribbon controller. The tricky thing with a contoller layout for Echo is that knobs that are available is dynamic, so there are too many options!
Yes, controller setups are a very personal thing, so tricky to share. I don't use an expression pedal, but I do have a ribbon controller. The tricky thing with a contoller layout for Echo is that knobs that are available is dynamic, so there are too many options!
it's for BB and Echo 3 customers only !
(echo 2 has been replaced and an update was available for 40e during 6 monthes. but there is not so many new things except the additional filters from the blackbox). I will not sale any echo 2 or 3 as standalones anymore. sorry...
people : there were many ressources, including tips, tricks, manual, presets, forum help etc when echo2 was available, (during more than 1 year)... i'll try to make available what i still have for echo2 but be patient.
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(echo 2 has been replaced and an update was available for 40e during 6 monthes. but there is not so many new things except the additional filters from the blackbox). I will not sale any echo 2 or 3 as standalones anymore. sorry...
people : there were many ressources, including tips, tricks, manual, presets, forum help etc when echo2 was available, (during more than 1 year)... i'll try to make available what i still have for echo2 but be patient.
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you will find echo manual on http://www.spacef.com/ (scroll down to find the link).
it is the manual and tips/tricks that were written for echo 2m. It has been updated for echo 3.x.
You will find mentions of Echo 35, which is not released yet.
see you
Mehdi
edit : and sorry in advance for the numerous english mistakes. Try to read the manual while using echo : it makes things much much clearer than on "paper".
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it is the manual and tips/tricks that were written for echo 2m. It has been updated for echo 3.x.
You will find mentions of Echo 35, which is not released yet.
see you
Mehdi
edit : and sorry in advance for the numerous english mistakes. Try to read the manual while using echo : it makes things much much clearer than on "paper".
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THANKS! just what I need, and thanks for updating for 3.x 
BCR2000 support in 3.5!!! Can't wait... (any ETA?)
While on ths subject of new version, have you ever thought of having a 'midi clock chase' mode for tempo? Ableton Live 5 outputs midi-clock, which my Korg ER-1, EA-1, and Alesis A6 all follow in terms of tempo. Currently I have to manually set Echo to match, and also can't cope with changing tempo in a song (which Live handles very well).
cheers, Wayne.
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BCR2000 support in 3.5!!! Can't wait... (any ETA?)
While on ths subject of new version, have you ever thought of having a 'midi clock chase' mode for tempo? Ableton Live 5 outputs midi-clock, which my Korg ER-1, EA-1, and Alesis A6 all follow in terms of tempo. Currently I have to manually set Echo to match, and also can't cope with changing tempo in a song (which Live handles very well).
cheers, Wayne.
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echo 35 is now available in the Echo user area (which has been repaired too, as passes did not work due to server changes. now all works).
please note it a preview.
extract from the read me html file :
ECHO 35 INSTALL INFORMATION
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SPACEF 27 AUG 2005
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There are 3 files in the pack :
- echo 35.dev , that you will put in your plugin and/or stereo effect directories.
- echo 35.pre , that you will put in your preset directory.
- ECHO-BIOSC-LBH-preset18.syx : is a sysex file designed with the BCR 2000 remote controller, but that should be useable/editable with many other controllers accepting sysex files: upload this file to your BCR 2000 controller and begin to remote control essential parameters of filters, spectrum, pitch and modulation.
(...the read me contains other notes about this new BCR template).
*******************
ps : BB users will have to wait a little bit .... they need a more elaborate zip file... will do it next week.
have a nice week end.
Mehdi
ps : no unfortunately, i do not think it is possible to have external tempos with delays in sfp in general. the instability of clocks generated by most sequencer softwares - and the inaccuracy of a few bpm of clocks generated by clock hardwares - will make it impossible to use an external tempo with delays.
but anyway, you set it once and there you go.
the tempo preset bypass is useful because it defeats the tempo saved in the presets, in favor of the one on the device (ie, whatever the tempo saved in your presets, all presets will be at the same tempo when you load them in "tempo preset bypass" mode.
If you have a tempo change in a song, you will have to work on 2 devices (or 2 presets and make 2 samples). progressive tempo change is simply not possible yet, or may be with the use of an external time stretch thing...(i think that's the case with any delay of scope/sfp).
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please note it a preview.
extract from the read me html file :
ECHO 35 INSTALL INFORMATION
---------------------------
SPACEF 27 AUG 2005
---------------------------
There are 3 files in the pack :
- echo 35.dev , that you will put in your plugin and/or stereo effect directories.
- echo 35.pre , that you will put in your preset directory.
- ECHO-BIOSC-LBH-preset18.syx : is a sysex file designed with the BCR 2000 remote controller, but that should be useable/editable with many other controllers accepting sysex files: upload this file to your BCR 2000 controller and begin to remote control essential parameters of filters, spectrum, pitch and modulation.
(...the read me contains other notes about this new BCR template).
*******************
ps : BB users will have to wait a little bit .... they need a more elaborate zip file... will do it next week.
have a nice week end.
Mehdi
ps : no unfortunately, i do not think it is possible to have external tempos with delays in sfp in general. the instability of clocks generated by most sequencer softwares - and the inaccuracy of a few bpm of clocks generated by clock hardwares - will make it impossible to use an external tempo with delays.
but anyway, you set it once and there you go.
the tempo preset bypass is useful because it defeats the tempo saved in the presets, in favor of the one on the device (ie, whatever the tempo saved in your presets, all presets will be at the same tempo when you load them in "tempo preset bypass" mode.
If you have a tempo change in a song, you will have to work on 2 devices (or 2 presets and make 2 samples). progressive tempo change is simply not possible yet, or may be with the use of an external time stretch thing...(i think that's the case with any delay of scope/sfp).
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I imagined a few tips allowing to use 2 tempos without too much hassle :
- disabling "tempo bypass preset" allows to recall any tempo saved in the preset. So you can make 2 presets with different tempos. When you change presets, only parameters with diffeent values are changed. so the change is fast. It is better to change the preset at a moment when there is no echo going on (to avoid possible clicks - which do not always occur though, as it is higly depended on the inputed sounds).
You can make more than 2 presets that way.
As preset changes are supported in echo35, you can also automate those changes.
- if the tempos are multiple of 2 or 3, you can use the BPM groover fader, which is a clock divider/multiplier : tight = x2, echo2=x1, ter= /3, double = /6.
you could also play with the main tempo and the tempo bypass : but this is tricky.
Make the "bypass tempo" the 2nd tempo you will be using.
Then go to the main tempo (by clicking on the byp.preset button) and make it the 1st tempo you will be using.
by switching, you will hange the tempo.
It is tricky because the "bypass tempo" always updates the main tempo to the same value. The main tempo never updates the bypass tempo. so it is tricky because as soon as you go back to bypass tempo, the main tempo will be updated.
The first method of creating presets with different tempos, and desactivating the "tempo preset bypass" button, is probably the best and easiest.
good luck
Mehdi
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- disabling "tempo bypass preset" allows to recall any tempo saved in the preset. So you can make 2 presets with different tempos. When you change presets, only parameters with diffeent values are changed. so the change is fast. It is better to change the preset at a moment when there is no echo going on (to avoid possible clicks - which do not always occur though, as it is higly depended on the inputed sounds).
You can make more than 2 presets that way.
As preset changes are supported in echo35, you can also automate those changes.
- if the tempos are multiple of 2 or 3, you can use the BPM groover fader, which is a clock divider/multiplier : tight = x2, echo2=x1, ter= /3, double = /6.
you could also play with the main tempo and the tempo bypass : but this is tricky.
Make the "bypass tempo" the 2nd tempo you will be using.
Then go to the main tempo (by clicking on the byp.preset button) and make it the 1st tempo you will be using.
by switching, you will hange the tempo.
It is tricky because the "bypass tempo" always updates the main tempo to the same value. The main tempo never updates the bypass tempo. so it is tricky because as soon as you go back to bypass tempo, the main tempo will be updated.
The first method of creating presets with different tempos, and desactivating the "tempo preset bypass" button, is probably the best and easiest.
good luck
Mehdi
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Thanks Mehdi,
3.5 is looking good. The BCR sysex is a nice variation on the 'default 1' Behringer config that nicely avoides CC1, etc so I may use that as my generic gefault.
In terms of tempo control, one thought is to use the CC remote mapping on the tempo value. This currently work, but at default CC modulation, the range is 60-999 bpm. I can change the modulation, but that is a little imprecises.
One option would be to have a "CC mode" for the BPM, which takes the CC value, and adds it to a base BPM (say 50, or configurable). So a CC of 60 would give 110 bpm, 80 would give 130bpm.
With this feature I could dial up a bpm on the BCR (I just have to add 50 to the displayed CC value), and I can even record the CC value as automation in Live. I can also just have a single CC at the beginning of a song to set Echo to the song temp (event if teh tempo doesn't change in the song).
This would be a perfect work around for me
Cheers, Wayne.
3.5 is looking good. The BCR sysex is a nice variation on the 'default 1' Behringer config that nicely avoides CC1, etc so I may use that as my generic gefault.
In terms of tempo control, one thought is to use the CC remote mapping on the tempo value. This currently work, but at default CC modulation, the range is 60-999 bpm. I can change the modulation, but that is a little imprecises.
One option would be to have a "CC mode" for the BPM, which takes the CC value, and adds it to a base BPM (say 50, or configurable). So a CC of 60 would give 110 bpm, 80 would give 130bpm.
With this feature I could dial up a bpm on the BCR (I just have to add 50 to the displayed CC value), and I can even record the CC value as automation in Live. I can also just have a single CC at the beginning of a song to set Echo to the song temp (event if teh tempo doesn't change in the song).
This would be a perfect work around for me
Cheers, Wayne.