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Quite a minimal tune. Uses two of my favourate sounds.. Acoustic guitar and Strings..
Vocals by Top Notch, verse and Alima, chorus (lovely voice in my opinion)
Thanks to every one with ideas on the early post when it was unfinished.... Scratching idea was nice but i felt to do some drum things instead sort scratch like ..
i think this is prob the most comercial track that i've been involved with.. but i think that is a good thing..
i would very much apreciate your opinions and thoughts on this piece, as i hold high regard for them, especially coming from people who are bright enough to of got a Creamware card..
also is it hip hop..or just pop really..
Quite a minimal tune. Uses two of my favourate sounds.. Acoustic guitar and Strings..
Vocals by Top Notch, verse and Alima, chorus (lovely voice in my opinion)
Thanks to every one with ideas on the early post when it was unfinished.... Scratching idea was nice but i felt to do some drum things instead sort scratch like ..
i think this is prob the most comercial track that i've been involved with.. but i think that is a good thing..
i would very much apreciate your opinions and thoughts on this piece, as i hold high regard for them, especially coming from people who are bright enough to of got a Creamware card..
also is it hip hop..or just pop really..
When you have a heavy bass it has to be minimal otherwise it would muddy the sound too much. The bass sounded distored but I think that is because my speakers really suck. The singer is fantastic to me however the melody was very comercial and predictable. If you want to make money I guess it is good. I don't like the style.
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sounds finished. Would work as it is. A record release amongst friends, I'm sure writing the piece was half the fun too. Depends where you are, but I think you can promote this, or atleast get to know some people by promoting the material.
I would have given the chorus some more variation, especially because the singer's got a very standard voice and singing style.. so musical variance could reinforce it a little more. To give it character so to speak. I think you may even give it character through harmonization.
In terms of rap. I think it's really good you can actually hear the lyrics... I understand that's not always the case with emcee-ing. The chilled out style is nice, not over the top but realistic. The timing seemed kind of very "on beat", maybe messing around with more jazzy timings or a more fluid flow could develop more character. Also, in terms flow, there's definitely a 4/4 feel to it.. you can try playing around with 8 count phrases, 3 count phrases, or just a bunch of different phrase groupings, just so that you have more variance happening there.
But again, let me remind you that the production sounds finished as it is. These are just few points that I'd keep in mind for the next project. It'll be interesting to see how this group develops through the next few projects.
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I would have given the chorus some more variation, especially because the singer's got a very standard voice and singing style.. so musical variance could reinforce it a little more. To give it character so to speak. I think you may even give it character through harmonization.
In terms of rap. I think it's really good you can actually hear the lyrics... I understand that's not always the case with emcee-ing. The chilled out style is nice, not over the top but realistic. The timing seemed kind of very "on beat", maybe messing around with more jazzy timings or a more fluid flow could develop more character. Also, in terms flow, there's definitely a 4/4 feel to it.. you can try playing around with 8 count phrases, 3 count phrases, or just a bunch of different phrase groupings, just so that you have more variance happening there.
But again, let me remind you that the production sounds finished as it is. These are just few points that I'd keep in mind for the next project. It'll be interesting to see how this group develops through the next few projects.

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My opinion:
Potential for great track.
Not finished.
To me the instruments interfere with the vocals.
Agree with Ken on percussive variation.... even some simple variation would be nice. Like what you did around 3:20.
Needs some highs and lows.
Opinions only. You've done well. Keep going. 98% there.....50% to go. You're talented.
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Potential for great track.
Not finished.
To me the instruments interfere with the vocals.
Agree with Ken on percussive variation.... even some simple variation would be nice. Like what you did around 3:20.
Needs some highs and lows.
Opinions only. You've done well. Keep going. 98% there.....50% to go. You're talented.
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thanks alot for the feedback guy's
Brain.. that bass is supposed to sound distorted..thanks for you input
Ken.. yeah the track was a lot of fun to do.
those pointers you mention i do agree with but with this track and my personal view is that i like a flow.. but yes definatly with the next project.. hopefully we can only progress..
Emzee. cheers .. i personally think it is finished, if you compare to a streets track, let say.. but yes you right as well.
with you last comment ... thanks very much so.. i can say that with music i do often feel like a frog constantly jumping half way to the other side of the pond.. almost getting there. but not quite...
Thankyou for your time and opinions.. very much apreciated
Brain.. that bass is supposed to sound distorted..thanks for you input
Ken.. yeah the track was a lot of fun to do.
those pointers you mention i do agree with but with this track and my personal view is that i like a flow.. but yes definatly with the next project.. hopefully we can only progress..
Emzee. cheers .. i personally think it is finished, if you compare to a streets track, let say.. but yes you right as well.
with you last comment ... thanks very much so.. i can say that with music i do often feel like a frog constantly jumping half way to the other side of the pond.. almost getting there. but not quite...
Thankyou for your time and opinions.. very much apreciated
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The man voice is too week, would like to enhance it somehow, and placing it slightly more up front.
The drums sounds are not of my taste, but you know, this is very personal. Anyway, I would like a more tight sound, and like everybody else, more variations in the loop. Would also like some variations in the melody. Cheers
The drums sounds are not of my taste, but you know, this is very personal. Anyway, I would like a more tight sound, and like everybody else, more variations in the loop. Would also like some variations in the melody. Cheers
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Hello. i was wondering wot peoples advice on enhancing the man vocal could be.and just general vocal enhancement. i think that vocal treatments is something i do need to improve on.. .. i comp. reverb. chorus and wotever fx to suit a track.. but For that upfront sound i find i sometimes just miss the mark.. but often it's not just a case of Volume. as often if i just increase the volume the vocal will distort..how can i improve on vocal enhacement and sitting more upfront in the mix.. it can't just be more compression. or is it..very extream.. squashing the hell out of it..??
Any advice much apreciated..
Any advice much apreciated..
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LE, that's my fave of all the tunes you've posted here thus far.
I felt that the bass had "deliberate crunch" (possibly a technical musical term) rather than being distorted...fitted nicely I thought.
The guitar's really sweet and the lady doing the vocals for the chorus has a lovely voice.
Good luck with it!
Royston
I felt that the bass had "deliberate crunch" (possibly a technical musical term) rather than being distorted...fitted nicely I thought.
The guitar's really sweet and the lady doing the vocals for the chorus has a lovely voice.
Good luck with it!
Royston
Try Psy-Q, or another psycho-acoustic processor, if you didn't alreadyOn 2005-05-28 02:08, Liquid EDGE wrote:
Hello. i was wondering wot peoples advice on enhancing the man vocal could be.and just general vocal enhancement.

Your vocals will fitt better in the music, and the music will sound more open in your ears

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Thankyou very much counterparts for you kind words..
Hubird cheers for the pointer.. right so i should buy the Psy-q
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Hubird cheers for the pointer.. right so i should buy the Psy-q
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