Pulsar into logic 5 problems pc

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AJAnderson
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please help am knew to this...

my system!!! PC

1.pulsar 2 card
2.Logic 5

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please can you help me with a set up to include the inferno synth and others within my pulsar projetc.. so that i can use them via midi in Logic 5...in realtime-----so that logic triggers the synth during play back and gives me the ability to quantize my musical line..... before i bounce into audio

thank you so much !!! in advance
Please all help welcome....
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the routing is pretty easy and only you can determine what is best for you. routing is handled pretty much the same way as with hardware.

the routing window represents a (virtual)room where objects(devices) are placed and connected. audio outs are connected to audio ins and vice-versa, likewise midi. many connections can be made to multiple devices.

the asio modules(in software i/o menu) represent the audio inputs and outputs in logic, where you should select "asio scope" as your audio driver. these modules can have as many channels as you wish, but they must be in the project and configured BEFORE you open logic.

the sequencer midi source and dest modules(also in software i/o menu) are...guess what? yes, they are for getting midi in and out of a sequencer like logic. you can use as many of them as you like, just make sure they are in the project BEFORE opening logic.

i like to connect all audio sources(like the sequencer's asio connects or the inferno's audio output), to a mixer(i prefer the stm2448 but i have a lot of dsps) to monitor everything. i connect my monitors to the audio output on the whip connected to the card which are represented by the analog dest module in the hardware i/o menu.

the midi ins and outs on the whip on the card are called pulsar2 midi source(for midi in) and pulsar2 midi dest(for midi out). the modules are in the hardware i/o menu, of course. obviously, if you want to use a midi controller connected to the card, there will need to be a pulsar2 midi source in the project and it will need to be connected to the sequencer midi dest and the sequencer midi dest will need to be connected to the inferno if the midi is to be recorded and played back in logic. if you just want to play the synth and not record midi, you can connect the pulsar2 midi source directly to the synth, just like in real life.

there are sample projects in the project forum here on z.

mainly, you MUST RTFM!! this card will give you much musical freedom and intuitive use, but you need to learn about the parts and how they work. it will take a minute....

i'd happily discuss routing with you, but typing is so slow and clumsy(for me).... i'd remind you, this stuff is pretty much like hooking up real gear.

oh yes, i mustn't forget this description! to connect in/out pads on devices, left click once just behind the arrow over the word in or out(experiment to find the best spot). the cursor will change to hourglass. on the other device do the same. you should see a wire drawn. it might take a bit to get it down. to clear your selection and try again, left click on a blank area of the routing window. there is a way to do this with the live bar, but you'll have to read about it in the manual(i rarely bother with that method, but to each their own).
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dear gary....
Thanks so much for getting back to me.. i will explain further...
I am a classical musician . i have bought my pulsar 2.. i understand how to work pulsar but i am unsure how to connect to logic 5 (pc)let me explain further.... I am not sure what i have to do in the enviroment in logic to let me see the synths from pulsar and assign them a midi track so i can work with them like anyother vst instrument......

could you send me or tell me where i can get some example projects

My equipment list is

PC 2ghz pro 2gig of ram and plenty of H/D space
Pulsar 2
Roland D70

if it would be easier i will send in a photo of my set up..
thanks again...i really appriciate it..

adam
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There is a chapter in the Logic manual about creating new 'instruments' in the environment. To map Creamware instruments into Logic you will either need to create a new 'instrument' or a new 'Multi' instrument and map things accordingly. I could go into depth about this but its covered in the manual and any tutorial I did make would be better handled in a similar format (html) rather than here in the forums...
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Thanxs Valis will get on it...
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can i post a pic of my setup somewhere???
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There is a files section here but I recommend either finding your own 3rd party hosting or perhaps sending someone here who is kind a private message and asking where u might be able to send the pic...
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you don't have to do anything special to use scope synths. they connect just like hardware synths. the environment isn't nessessary. on a midi track assign the outputs to scope midi1 and set midi channel. in scope connect the pulsar midi source to the sequencer midi dest. connect to sequencer midi source to the synth. if scope is also selected as the midi input on your channel in logic, when you record enable the track, midi will go thru logic to the synth. after recording midi, playback will play the synth.
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Post by AJAnderson »

Thanks Gary and all....

is working a treat....
I woundered if any knows where i can buy a cheap pulsar 2 card?????? pro if possible....

thanks again...

If i can be of any musical help musical theory etc. please contact only to happy to help

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Glad to hear you got it working. Gary I'm a bit confused as to how you're assigning midi tracks without having a device in the environment that's assigned to that midi port?
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logic takes care of that in the track assignment window(as i remember...i haven't used logic for a few months...).

it seems that i made midi objects at first, but i seem to remember giving up on that as i only really needed tracks in the arrange window. the environment allows for lots of cool things that i rarely use, like transforming midi or designing control surfaces in logic. it's pretty automatic for simple tasks. also, logic's mixer routing is still superior to everyone else's. you know, sometimes i think about going back to that program since it's so well laid out, i just thought sx sounded better....
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Not even sure what the track assignment window is? The parameter box on the left? Anyway I was just curious as I feel I know logic pretty well now, at least on the surface and when I encounter something I'm unaware of I like to learn more.

Logic does automatically create midi i/o under the "Clicks and ports" environment layer but using these led to more problems than creating an Instrument did, especially when you can have multiple Instruments assigned to the same out. I do have to admit I love Logic for its environment and rather than finding it daunting as many users do, I love the freedom it gives me to route and process data. However to create instruments I don't think that much of an in-depth knowledge is needed, unless you're of the type that wants every preset name available etc. from withing Logic.
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