GigaStudio 3 & Scope

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:34 am

The Scope platform needs to have the GISF driver updated to the GISF-2 driver.

GSIF-1 will work with Giga 3.0 the same way it does with the current Giga. It allows the GigaStudio to work. (IE playback Giga audio)

However, GSIF-2 offers the ability to take incoming audio, run it through the Giga mixer with the effects (like GigaPulse) and spit it back out. It gives you the ability to use a GigaStudio computer as a giant effects processor if you wish to. You won't be able to do that with GSIF-1 but you would at least be able to play samples as you do right now.

Giga 3 will still work in playback mode with GSIF 1.0 but with 2.0 you get the real time input for processing external sounds and it sounds like a possible improvement in latency.

I would think that the current crop of GSIF card companies will have no problem updating to the new version.

I only know about two manufacturers, Echo and RME, that already have done the GSIF2 implementation for their line of cards.

FWIW, according to the RME driver writers GSIF2 seems to be the best low-latency driver format there is right now.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:13 am

On 2004-04-17 03:34, sharcsound wrote:
...take incoming audio, run it through the Giga mixer with the effects (like GigaPulse) and spit it back out. It gives you the ability to use a GigaStudio computer as a giant effects processor if you wish to. ...

probably a nice feature for someone without a DSP board and software which does exactly this for years now

cheers, Tom

rodos1979 · Post by **rodos1979** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:48 am

Hello!

Tom, how could you route audio into Gigastudio with the current GSIF SFP drivers? There is no GSIF INput drivers! The only thing we (SFP owners) could do in the past before anyone else, is to route the output(s) of Giga in any way we liked.
A Creamware system has been up to now the best solution for a GigaStudio system (Hans Zimmer is not stupid to have chosen it), and it should stay the same.
I vote for GSIF2 drivers too.

P.S. The only reason I d like to use Gigastudio as an effects-processor is because this giga-pulse looks sexy... Although, I am quite happy already with SIR

[ This Message was edited by: rodos1979 on 2004-04-17 08:51 ]

WayneSim · Post by **WayneSim** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:30 pm

I put my vote for GSIF 2 Drivers.

I will be buying GS3 as soon as it released! "GS2.5 96 > GS3 Ensemble $149". Is hard to pass up!

[ This Message was edited by: WayneSim on 2004-04-17 22:32 ]

enb141 · Post by **enb141** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:28 pm

Yeah, another vote for GSIF 2

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:39 pm

On 2004-04-17 08:48, rodos1979 wrote:
...P.S. The only reason I d like to use Gigastudio as an effects-processor is because this giga-pulse looks sexy...

didn't know that it was a part of GS

anyway, tnx for the hint which made me browse the Giga part of the Tascam site
pretty good, impressive...

should I really be entitled to a $200 rebate due to my recently aquired 'any other version of Gigastudio' ?

$399 for the convolution fx plus the sampler and the new piano and a VSTI host doesn't read that bad...
ok, I also vote for the version 2 drivers

cheers, Tom

WayneSim · Post by **WayneSim** » Mon May 24, 2004 9:18 am

Anyone got any news yet? It would be great if SFP could handle GSIF 2!!!!!!!! Maybe we need to hassle creamware

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valis · Post by **valis** » Mon May 24, 2004 10:07 am

If I were a giga-user I would definately be emailing them at every opportunity to ask for this. It would look great in their next update.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Mon May 24, 2004 11:03 am

Get in line. We Sonar users have been asking for proper WDM drivers for years, and nothing's happened.

Go ask the open-source volunteer guys if they're interested in doing anything.

Shayne

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Mon May 24, 2004 11:35 am

Sonar support Asio2, and asio is better...

But i agree, WDM driver are horrible, almost unusable

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:06 am

GS 3 is almost out. I also hope Creamware will create GSIF2 drivers for GS3.

Sunshine · Post by **Sunshine** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:28 am

I gave Creamware a call....

tech-support said first Giga-3 has to be released before they could work on new drivers. They also said that all drivers will be updated at the given time...

And another GSIF-2 vote !!

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:07 pm

That sounds good!

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:12 pm

Surely Tascam would provide the documentation for GSIF-2 *before* they released the product! After all, other companies already have GSIF-2 drivers.

Frankly I'm not sure if we're going to see anything at all this year.

They lost most of their employees.

Shayne

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:49 pm

If GSIF2 is the best driver in terms of latency etc would it be theoretically possible to use it as a replacement for ASIO and WDM to work with apps other than Gigastudio?

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:38 pm

of course it would - nothing easier than that, theoretically...
needs only to convince the programmers of Apple, Cakewalk, Pinnacle, Magix, etc to write a new recording interface for their respective apps

but I really have a problem in understanding the use of of that ms race.
either you are sample accurate - and that's even theoretically impossible (the sapmple needs no time from input to output - aka timewarp) or you have to provide some adjustment anyway.
imho the timing precision itself would deserve more attention

just my 2 cents, Tom (happy at 13ms)

WayneSim · Post by **WayneSim** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:13 am

GS3 has been released. So has anyone heard anything yet? Where are the GSIF 2 drivers?

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Lets hope something can be worked out becasue I'm saving up for gigastudio 3 as we speak. I'll hopefully have it in a month or 2. Please give us the drivers Creamware

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beatpete · Post by **beatpete** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:48 pm

Any news on Gsif-2?

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:42 am

well, i cant comment on CW gsif2 drivers, but there are some other things to notice:

- Gigastudio can now be used as a VST-plug

- It can incorporate VSTs in its DSP station, but ironically, it doesnt support TC powercore or UAD plugs. I havent seen any reports on how it handles XTC mode, but what the heck, routing is the thing anyways

- It doesnt support 64 bits processors, or dual cpu setups

- On a positive note, there has been reports of people having achieved 700 note polyphony with GS :S

This info is taken from SOS review in the Jan 05 issue. maybe updates has arrived, im not sure.

[ This Message was edited by: piddi on 2004-12-27 00:44 ]

AltMR · Post by **AltMR** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:21 am

Do somebody among you use GS3 in Scope?
Any experiences ?

[ This Message was edited by: AltMR on 2005-01-29 11:22 ]