Dick Armey Fired From DLA Piper

[netguyjoel]

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[braincell]

The birthers and the deathers who are protesting democratic health care reform at town meetings with posters of Obama with a Hitler mustache are all right wing nutjobs. Those are the people talking about euthanasia etc. and reading these ridiculous websites. They complain they want their country back. Nobody took your country, you lost the election. Get over it!

"Who knew that electing a black man with a foreign sounding name would upset rural white people?"

--- Bill Maher

Ted Kennedy did more for Americans than any senator in history. He was not a jerk.

[siriusbliss]

It wouldn't matter to me if he was from Mars.

Only the puppeteers would count on dumb people buying into the race card if you speak out against Obomba.

You still haven't realized that Obomba is a front-man. He's the perfect ruse since he has dark skin and can put two words together, which means the 'rural white people' won't be able to see through the veil.

He's not even a liberal, and you like him. You need to ask yourself why.

G

[braincell]

It's all relative. I like him. I never said I loved him. He's a breath of fresh air after the nightmare of the last 16 years.

[garyb]

how is a man who has kept all the same policies, and indeed the EXACT same people as the past administrations be a breath of fresh air?

Teddy doing more for people than any Senator in history? that is just plain untrue. the man voted for bills he never even read, and that includes the "patriot act". he laid down for ALL of the Bush administration's blatant disregard for law and constitution. all Ted ever gave was lip service. at least his brothers tried to do the right thing occasionally, even if they paid with their lives(Bobby attacked the mob that helped put his family into power while Attorney General and John tried to eliminate the Fed by printing GENUINE US greenback 5 dollar bills to replace the Federal Reserve notes and made this speech days before his murder). Ted spent his days drinking and whoring, excellent pursuits, but hardly public service.

evil IS all relative, but Truth is not.

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence" JFK

[valis]

how is a man who has kept all the same policies, and indeed the EXACT same people as the past administrations be a breath of fresh air?

Marketing? (It worked for Apple)

[next to nothing]

Oh i love this place!

Two lines of sarcasm and you have the whole eugenics train going. Nothing has changed! Politics are the same! Yet people cry out how Oh Bama is ruining what is close to a continent with its communist health care. Is that program the same as the Reps have fought for? FFS, he's been "the decider" for close to a year now, why hasnt he changed the world?

Hang on, i think i allready know the answer: " Maybe it doesnt seem so, but you know, George Orwell allready planned mandatory health care long time ago. its all theatre. USA will SUCK, because of Mr.Hussein, Mr. Orwell, and whatnot. But it doesnt really matter as long as they don't touch my Remington".

Seriously though, if i spend half an hour trying to get some statistics of crime, drug abuse, minimum wage and social health care, I admit i wouldnt find much people didn't know allready. But I am pretty sure the answer here wouldnt be something else than "you know what? we have a shitty political system here, that doesnt even reflect our politicians. It doesnt matter if our President is a drunk with the IQ of a doorknob, its all written and it will be as the scripts say. " Is there NO integrity left? Do you really feel everything is just a planned scherade you cant do shit about because its all pre planned? If so, PLEASE TRAVEL. SEE THE WORLD. there are actually places around that might trigger something, be it some positive feelings that there is actually hope, be it some fresh perspevtive ot just a feeling that you actually need to do something about it.

There are places far worse than where you are living. There is also places far better. I think we discussed the bug in the rug earlier. Why not actually try to look forward and change stuff (no Oh Bama pun intended) rather than concentrating on how jesus actually planned the whole economic breakdown?

[braincell]

According to our own CIA, we rank 45 in longevity. Why do rethuglicans keeps saying we have the greatest health care system in the world????

[siriusbliss]

According to our own CIA, we rank 45 in longevity. Why do rethuglicans keeps saying we have the greatest health care system in the world????

Because it's based on profit and sustaining insurance companies, the FDA, and big-pharma, and the Republicrats are all at the trough.

[siriusbliss]

There are places far worse than where you are living. There is also places far better. I think we discussed the bug in the rug earlier. Why not actually try to look forward and change stuff (no Oh Bama pun intended) rather than concentrating on how jesus actually planned the whole economic breakdown?

I have traveled, and am rather seeking wholesale transformation rather than just 'change' - which to me is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic - it LOOKS the different on the surface, but it's really the same ol' deal in a new suit.

[dawman]

This has nothing to do with Health Care...
It's all about how our Politicians for the last 9 years have wasted our money and failed to do what they were sent there to do, so now they want a huge revenue stream to have access to.
Do you mean to tell me that the people who would gladly take my home I paid for my whole life, because I miss the personal property taxes twice, are concerned about unhealthy, unproductive, uninsured people, or better yet alchoholics and crackheads..............I don't think so. To believe these elitists in DC feel for us commoners is laughable. This is to have control and access to the TRILLIONS that insurance companies have blackmailed doctors and patients for. Our politicians believe in survivability of themselves, not us, The speeches we have heard on this subject for decades has always been that speeches. They have had the money to take care of the most sick folks who need care, and have done nothing. So I don't buy this sudden need to help others as we can't even sell our Bonds to the Communist Chinese.....
We have excellent Health care if you have money. If you don't, you have the Interns at the Emergency room. Sure, they won't cure your Cancer there, but our Government talks about end of life decisions on people who are just old and expensive,what makes you think they want to help an unisured person with Cancer......C'mon.
Our Government is suppose to tell the insurance folks that it's time for them to change and become competitive, instead of the Mafia style protection rackets we now are being held captive by. But who made these laws in the first place....The bastards who take their money to pass legislation. All of them need to be re elected and care not where the money comes from.
Don't miss the ball and believe these fuckers give a shit about us. They want the money the insurance companies have been stealing so they can pay their debts, of course for a smalll commission.
Americans were fine all by themselves until the Government became involved in our day to day decision making. What do you expect from a horde of Lawyers who barely practiced Law.

[braincell]

"Elitists" haha that is so funny. I got a card in the mail that was a photo of Leonardo DiCaprio with Obama photoshopped standing behind him and the caption read "Obama parties with Hollywood's Elite." That was supposed to make me not vote for him? My best friend parties with Leo frequently. Funny thing is that the rethuglicans sent me 20 mailings and the dems none and Virginia still voted for Obama.

Alright, back to my keyboard workout/recording

[garyb]

next to nothing, are you suggesting that these things shouldn't even be said? should we all just put a smile on our face? talking about the FACT that the leadership are ALL staunch eugenicists IS doing something POSITIVE about it! trying to shut down such discussion is an attempt to maintain the status quo.

there's NOTHING wrong with these conversations. they don't mean that we should all just kill ourselves.

one thing about the USA that is very different than most places is that we are all from different tribes. a place that has been historically Norsemen will naturally be less contentious and more likely to be socially helpful that a place that is full of otherwise warring tribes.

as to the Remington, there are bad people around, like it or not. the choice to defend myself from them or not is MY choice, i don't care if the bad man is a robber, policeman, prince or begger. you may claim to disagree with me, but if i enter your home and bring violence and distruction, you'll end up acting just as i would, and if you wouldn't you would deserve what you got. stop pretending to be superior, we're all decent people here(i think)....

[braincell]

I would like everyone to express themselves. Keep in mind that you won't be changing anyone's mind and try to refrain from personal attacks on other forum members. I have been guilty of this in the past for which I apologize.

[garyb]

wow, i sound WAY more strident rereading now.

i don't think there's any actual hatred going on, just blah blah blah. i would hope that everyone can enjoy the talk. when people can't speak as they see it, right or wrong, something bad must be happening. that doesn't excuse plain rudeness. i post as though y'all are my friends. if i'm rude, it's that type of rudeness, between friends and in good humor, even if i'm annoyed, i don't want anyone damaged. if i've crossed the line, i apologize, although my big mouth is bound to open again...

[next to nothing]

Hey, im not trying to shut down a discussion, that should be pretty obvious with the "able to talk" post

Im not saying you are wrong either, and you have certainly done more research on the subject than i have. My main argument is that if you (as in all of us) think of politics as a big untouchable agenda, risk is that you passify people more than encourage them to actually take part and try to put your own paint on the future because it seems impossible (oh, wouldnt this also be a main goal for a group trying to take over the world? are you one of them? ).

The ego in me also have a lot of problems seeing how this could be an operation going back as far as being claimed. The reason? Greed. Greed is, by nature, personal. And before cryogenics is fully functional, i cant see why someone would deliberatly make others rich and powerful if there is no benefit for the initiator.

But by all means, go on!

[next to nothing]

And by the way i dont feel offended.

[garyb]

all good points.

as to the why would a greedy thing further some one else's agenda, that IS strange, yet here in Los Angeles, there was an aquaduct built 50 years before anyone really needed it(there was plenty of water for the small city), only because mr Mullholland knew that in the next generation LA would cease to be a mudhole and become a metropolis. certainly those who financed that project profitted, but the real profits were for those to follow. there are family plans, from a strangely tight knight family or three, strengthened through careful breeding and alliances that ARE continued despite greed. the Monarchy is a perfect example. QE1 killed her own sister for power, and yet continued her father's work even instituting a new language(English) to move it forward. in fact, for the greedy, working towards the agenda IS in their own interest, as greed and ultimate power and dominion IS a big part of the goal.

there IS a plan, and something(someone) exerting powerful INFLUENCE towards that plan, but it's not hopeless. regular everyday, moronic people are the key and hope, all of us.

[siriusbliss]

I don't think it's hopeless to try to fix issues via political means, however the politics shroud many other layers of agendas that need to be unmasked first. People in the US ARE waking up - although at this point it still manifests as the stupid fake left/right bantering at town halls, where everyone is concerned about maintaining their personal beliefs rather than being aware of the real agenda. I just think we're being played - and it's been going on for a LONG time - even before the US came into existence.

As far as the greed/power thing - hey, these folks already print the money and have all the power they could ever need - so what ELSE would be driving these agendas? THAT is the real question IMO.
Beyond power/greed is control of populations, and I don't even think control of population is the final key. I think it goes much deeper than this, and it's very hard to determine just what it is, and it's NOT a conspiracy, because the 'elitists' already have it all.

It goes WAY beyond the stupid us/them Dem/Rep Socio-Communo-Fascistic blind dog-n-pony show that is just a distraction and diversion.

Greg

[dawman]

Mass murder on the scale of the recent Kosovo was just a reminder of what a single faction of folks are capable of.
The people involved knew they were going to be caught, but in their eyes, the only good Albanian was a dead one.
Just waching and reading the arrogance of certain scientists, and even the story of the Rothschilds is enough to prove many of the current theories are possible. The youngest new Rothschild does have high standards and good tastes too. Having Natalie Portman at your beckoning call is an achievemnt as she doesn't involve herself in the usual Hollywood Schport und Schpeil.
In all honesty I believe that when the time comes during a world wide panic or famine, is when these wide scale plans can be implemented. Besides, during social collapse who's counting when food is scarce.
I am not wealthy but I am prepared as I believe this will happen in my lifetime, and since I consider my seed worthy of surviving I have prepared for that time most of my life. Not because I am paranoid and twisted, but I winessed death and social collapse twice where I grew up and I already know what needs to be done.
Right now we have had years of economic growth and spoiled our children and enjoyed our lives, and even during these good times the Police couldn't ever protect us. They can only come by and ascertain how you died and clean up the mess, so I am certain they will head for the hills when they are really needed, just like the Police in New Orleans did and that was just a Hurricane in an isolated part of the USA.
Those who have complained about citizens having the right to bare arms will understand why after it's too late. They don't know how to hunt, fish, shoot or stand on their own 2 feet.
But the little " crazy gun owners " who most of actually hunt, will survive unless it's Nuclear winter.
Whichever new occupant of the White House allows guns to be banned, I will know that something's cooking, and thankfully I made my purchases through poker games, and the private sector. I have never even used my name on the ammunition purchases, I always tell the friends I am with since I am paying and they are shooting they can sign...
I can't even find my name on a google search so I have done well staying under the radar.
I am sure you guys think I am a whacko now, especially my Brethren from Euorpe, but I guess you never been to St.Louis or Chicago.

Chance favours the prepared mind.