Banks Suck

[Shroomz~>]

Ok, maybe I'm misreading Alex Jones, but awareness is very difficult to spread to people who don't use the net which is actually quite a large percentage of people. Even within the net using community, many people either don't buy into the type of awareness we're talking about or simply don't care. Mostly, it's that they don't buy into it though... Vast amounts of people actually believe everything they read in their daily newspapers & look forward to reading it every morning, so ultimately, what would or could the spreading of this awareness actually achieve that's of any notable worthiness beyond the belief of some people that they have belief shattering knowledge to spread? Even if this 'awareness' spreads to over 50% of the world's population, what then? What can this aware majority actually do about what they see as being wrong in our sociapitalist disaster zone? Not very much beyond spreading the bad news, because even real revolution & rioting in the streets won't change a f*cking thing. It might seem to have an effect, but it definitely won't... no way. The last time the British public appeared to have a say was just a few months before Maggie Thatcher was supposedly ousted from her position as PM, which was just after the Poll Tax Riots of 1990. The public discontent was apparently so powerful that the Poll Tax was quickly abolished & replaced (by a slightly different tax - Council Tax which isn't ALL THAT different FWIW). Several months later Maggie was replaced by the most wonderful John Major - The grey man. TFFT. .... I honestly fail to see what can be done. I don't see a solution because I don't see the spreading of awareness as a solution & I know for a fact that anarchy isn't the answer either whether you've got the self motivation of owning a firearm or not.

cheers,
Mark

[Zer]

we`re going back to 1929 and nothing will stop it.

[Mr Arkadin]

OK maybe revolution isn't the answer (and in some cases is orchestrated for our 'benefit' anyway). What if we were a bit more passive and just withdrew all our money from the banks on the same day? They wouldn't physically have enough money to give and they'd be fucked and on their knees surely? Or is this simple-minded?

[Shroomz~>]

It would certainly put the shits up them Mr.A, but that's not a solution either because it's not possible to spread the word on such an event without them knowing about it & planning for it before it happens. The sad result would only be a run on the banks, potential collapse of the banking system & the propping up of it by governments with tax money taken from us (sound familiar?).. AFTER they change the laws & make the money we've all withdrawn not legal tender any more. Even stopping borrowing as much (which they definitely don't want us to do) will ultimately only hit the pockets of the public and average working man. We turn the thumbscrew on them - they invent & turn an even bigger one on us... Resistance is Futile..

[garyb]

yeah, just the local banks would fail and be eaten by the megabanks.

that would give the royals, the sangraals, the elite a reason to put us on a credit system, with no cash, just a weekly credit that couldn't be traded or saved....

Shroomz, all this is predicated on 20% of the population believing. the rest just follow. mass awareness really is all that's needed to effect change, for better or worse. we won't be enslaved except through our own consensus. how else can a relatively few control so many even with massive influence?

the only workable revolution is in the mind and conciousness of the proles. when they stop loving their "betters" and realize that the "authorities" are not the true authors of life we can do something different...

this is "black magic" at it's finest. the only hold on humanity is in the mind(see Conan Riddle of Steel/Flesh ).

[petal]

I stumpled upon these movies the other day:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

I thought they might be of interest to some of you guys.

[garyb]

zeitgeist is made by the same people who made the problem. if you listen carefully, you will recognize the UN agenda 21 plan, made to sound most loving. even the film maker admits though, that those who don't think the way that this "new order" deems appropriate will need to be "reeducated" by the state authorities who have been changed into the council of the wise.

here is the Club of Budapest, http://www.clubofbudapest.org/, which is admittedly an extension of the Club of Rome, which is the think tank for Bilderburg, an organization of Royalty, high level blue blood corporate owners and policy makers that has formalized the "council of the wise", which are them, who made all this trouble and who funded Zietgiest. the fund both sides of the dichotmy in order to rule all. it is quite scientific and with great understanding of human tendencies. you remember these guys, the founded the idea of world unity through the threat of global warming...

this is stuff that sounds all soft and cuddly and nice, but is a trick. it is poison.

remember, the idea is "NEW WORLD ORDER". that doesn't mean that things will stay like they are. it means that we are about to get a whole different experience of life. the old way things work, the "old order" that we are in is to give way to something that, like Soviet communism, will promise people much, but will result in a more controlled dictatorship that the world has ever seen, since it will have the benefit of technology.

just my educated opinion....

[petal]

I guess you are mostly talking about the so called "venus project" - the suggested solution to the problem.

If you take that away, I can't really distinguish what is being said in these movies from what you have been "educating" people about here on planetz.

[garyb]

no, true.
it's not like there isn't GOOD information in those films. it's just what ultimate conclusions that are made from the information that makes me so uneasy. they speak against those who are openly planning disaster(for the common man), and then come to the same conclusions as those they would seem to oppose. but i'm just talking about it with you, it may or may not educate you, but it's better that i bring forward what i have rather than drool, grin and nod isn't it?

you know, the funny thing is, that while most don't know about the actual planning process that runs the world, it's also not at all secret. i've never spouted secret information that only the insiders can know, i've always stuck to what is public. the occultism runs in knowing where and when to look, and the language is always boring and as confusing as possible, but in no way secret...

[petal]

I'm not trying to make you drool instead I just found that these movies contained much of the same information that you have been relaying here. I had a hard time buying the "Venus project" as a solution - I found it to be pretty naive, but then again I'm pretty sceptic about everything in these movies, as for anything else for that matter. I don't trust politicians, I don't trust the banks, I don't trust the multinational coorporations etc. - on the other hand the scenario you have been drawing for the past few years here, is also pretty hard to believe. It's simply just too far out there in my opinion which leads me to think of Occam's razor. Now I'm trying to decide if I should go for a mustache or sideburns or maybe even no beard at all.

[siriusbliss]

yeah, the truth is right there in front of us.

Greg

[petal]

Yes it is, but sometimes one might be trying so hard to see it, that they end up finding stuff that are not even there to begin with. Just like when you want to really tighten that screw and end up ruining the screw in the process.

[garyb]

actually, ocam's razor says that i'm telling the truth. it is the simplest, likely explanation.
it's good that you're sceptical, petal.

[garyb]

Is it simple ?

yes.

is it better to be the richest man or the one who prints the money?

is it better to be prime minister or the one that owns the land that the parliement building is on?

if you ran the game and you wanted to maintain the monopoly, wouldn't you plan?

your family doesn't marry brothers and sisters to keep the power in the family, generation after generation. you think everyone has the same set of information to work with. that is why it seems complicated to you. it is outside of you everyday experience. or maybe not...

[next to nothing]

"your family doesn't marry brothers and sisters to keep the power in the family, generation after generation."

Neither do they marry mid-skilled writers and drug-abusing party chicks, as have been the latest installments in the norwegian royal family.

[petal]

actually, ocam's razor says that i'm telling the truth. it is the simplest, likely explanation.

I tend not to agree with you here. The deception of the world that you believe in demands orchestration of events at a level that I doubt is possible, even if people had the will to do so.

That doesn't mean that I do not disapprove of many of the things that is happening around us, and some of them are possible just as evil as you would think they are, but that they should all be part of a carefully planned master plan for the whole world is just plain incredible. And it is not simple at all.

Personally I just tend to believe that the world is chaotic, idiotic and unfair - you know, as it has always been

[garyb]

actually, ocam's razor says that i'm telling the truth. it is the simplest, likely explanation.

I tend not to agree with you here. The deception of the world that you believe in demands orchestration of events at a level that I doubt is possible, even if people had the will to do so.

That doesn't mean that I do not disapprove of many of the things that is happening around us, and some of them are possible just as evil as you would think they are, but that they should all be part of a carefully planned master plan for the whole world is just plain incredible. And it is not simple at all.

Personally I just tend to believe that the world is chaotic, idiotic and unfair - you know, as it has always been

the world is chaotic and etc.

the amount of orchestration you mention is not required, however the amount of orchestration there already is, is plenty. there is a one world government, there is a single money supply. yes, there ARE individuals going for their own gain and competing with each other, but they cooperate on the bigger system, which is MAN MADE and articficial.

it IS simple, it's just outside the sphere of your experience and it's been in the making since the first tyrant dreamed of ruling the world.

[Shroomz~>]

yeah, just the local banks would fail and be eaten by the megabanks. That would give the royals, the sangraals, the elite a reason to put us on a credit system, with no cash, just a weekly credit that couldn't be traded or saved....

'a weekly credit that couldn't be traded or saved' would be like giving a cup of hot soup to a beggar... Not that that would be a bad thing, but I guess you see my point... We all become beggars in that world.

[Shroomz~>]

"your family doesn't marry brothers and sisters to keep the power in the family, generation after generation."

Neither do they marry mid-skilled writers and drug-abusing party chicks, as have been the latest installments in the norwegian royal family.

Piddi, I think the best thing that your Government could do is send all the party chicks to Scotland via a boat to Aberdeen.

[next to nothing]

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