Using RMX 160 on drums

[niceboy]

Read the headline weirdo.
This is not about you .
its about example of what can be done with.
RMX 160.

if it's about the reverb on the drums, why don't you give us just a file of the reverberated drums?

Exactly.
Current mix doesn't distinguish what we're listening for (reverb on drums).

G

You are wrong.
Its three Verbs

[dante]

I appreciate the topic is about reverb, but I also agree that would be easier to evaluate if the other (upper) parts weren't there.

Posting a mix with guitars and organ muted might not be such a bad idea.

[niceboy]

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I appreciate the topic is about reverb, but I also agree that would be easier to evaluate if the other (upper) parts weren't there.

Posting a mix with guitars and organ muted might not be such a bad idea.

Yes it is a bad idea.
The point is that the bass and the darkest guitar make it more heavy,
and one more rytm guitar makes it even more heavy because its not unison,
that gives a lot of unwanted distortion if you play with our heavy sounds
One Synth will be fine instead of the Organ.
Sologuitar is already gone where Voice is going to be,
but if you listen with heavy mix you will understand that Toms ,Snare and bassdrum,
is heard clear, and OH can and schould be this low
and a trained ear can hear drumroom plate mixed with the final Master Verb on Snare ,
thats having extra feedback.
Also with your third ear you can hear RMX 160

[Mr Arkadin]

but if you listen with heavy mix you will understand that Toms ,Snare and bassdrum,
is heard clear, and OH can and schould be this low
i trained ear can hear drumroom plate mixed with the final Master Verb on Snare ,
thats having extra feedback.
Also with your third ear you can hear RMX 160

Now I know you're taking the piss. Come on man, I cannot hear a single thing clearly any one of your mixes, let alone try and make a comment about the RMX which is indistinguishable from all the other mush going on.

If you are serious (please Lord, no) then you need to stop with the 'feedback placebo' and actually listen to the mix. You are so blinded (deafened?) by technique that you are not actually hearing to the results. Any criticism of your technique you seem to take personally as if it was your baby. All you have to do is listen to the result to know something isn't right. I could get a much better mix with 'straight up' regular boring old mixing (assuming the stems were recorded clean in the first place).

Oh well. Unfortunately I know the response already:

Are we intersted in your ideas.

Are we interested in your ideas? Not any more.

[hubird]

could it be this thread of you niceboy is a setup to 'advertise' the mentioned reverb?
Reading the words and style of you it makes me have a deja vu feeling somehow.
I also remember this 'we can play' and 'we are a band', as opposed to electronic music making. Weird...

Anyway, believe us, it's impossible to judge the reverberations on the drums with such mid-emphasized guitars and organ on top of it.
You would do us a favor to make a simple life mix with just drums and reverb, 30 seconds is enough for us.
OR make a decent (life) workmix with all elements in it.

thanks

Edit: this answer of you on Siriusbliss shows we can't hear (distinguish) what exactly is going on concerning the applied reverb(s):

...Current mix doesn't distinguish what we're listening for (reverb on drums).

You are wrong.
Its three Verbs

It's three, and we don't know. So please give us a mix of drums and reverb only, and you get the respons you're asking for

[niceboy]

but if you listen with heavy mix you will understand that Toms ,Snare and bassdrum,
is heard clear, and OH can and schould be this low
i trained ear can hear drumroom plate mixed with the final Master Verb on Snare ,
thats having extra feedback.
Also with your third ear you can hear RMX 160

Now I know you're taking the piss. Come on man, I cannot hear a single thing clearly any one of your mixes, let alone try and make a comment about the RMX which is indistinguishable from all the other mush going on.

If you are serious (please Lord, no) then you need to stop with the 'feedback placebo' and actually listen to the mix. You are so blinded (deafened?) by technique that you are not actually hearing to the results. Any criticism of your technique you seem to take personally as if it was your baby. All you have to do is listen to the result to know something isn't right. I could get a much better mix with 'straight up' regular boring old mixing (assuming the stems were recorded clean in the first place).

Oh well. Unfortunately I know the response already:

Are we intersted in your ideas.

Are we interested in your ideas? Not any more.

So go back into your pub an drink instead.
This is not your personal Marshall help.
Bear

[niceboy]

could it be this thread of you niceboy is a setup to 'advertise' the mentioned reverb?
Reading the words and style of you it makes me have a deja vu feeling somehow.
I also remember this 'we can play' and 'we are a band', as opposed to electronic music making. Weird...

Anyway, believe us, it's impossible to judge the reverberations on the drums with such mid-emphasized guitars and organ on top of it.
You would do us a favor to make a simple life mix with just drums and reverb, 30 seconds is enough for us.
OR make a decent (life) workmix with all elements in it.

thanks

Edit: this answer of you on Siriusbliss shows we can't hear (distinguish) what exactly is going on concerning the applied reverb(s):

...Current mix doesn't distinguish what we're listening for (reverb on drums).

You are wrong.
Its three Verbs

It's three, and we don't know. So please give us a mix of drums and reverb only, and you get the respons you're asking for

You dont understand.
We are not mixing .
We have a professional live setup,
and we do mastering also live.
So instead of having sex I schould make mixes for you.
How much can you pay me to do that.
We have set everything here but I rather have some sex,
than mixing for free.
We just play and record .
No mixing needed.
Bear

[hubird]

This is not your personal Marshall help.
Bear

Hm, wasn't you asking for help?

Anyway, that's what I thought already, you don't have a multitrack record at hand.
That makes it hard for us to judge your reverberation tricks, the offered mix isn't really suetable for that.

We just play and record .
No mixing needed.

well, that is exactly what we were discussing...

I rather have some sex,
than mixing for free.

one can't be good in both.

[niceboy]

This is not your personal Marshall help.
Bear

Hm, wasn't you asking for help?

Anyway, that's what I thought already, you don't have a multitrack record at hand (see my post).
That makes it hard for us to judge your reverberation tricks, the offered mix isn't really suetable for that.

We just play and record .
No mixing needed.

well, that exactly is something we are discussing...

Multirack recording is outdated long ago
Live mixing with mastering made by Decca for over 40 years.
I was going to ask for help with something else,
but that we almost found out by ourself here.
and it was mentioned before some drunk activities started
Bear

[hubird]

Drunk activities?
You never think 'if so much people have the same comments, then I must do something wrong or I don't make myself clear enough'?

[niceboy]

and you never think 'if so much people have the same comments then I must do something wrong or I don't make myself clear enough'?

Just try to read the beginning of thread .
Gary cant answere and neither RAlf sometimes so be a little bit more intelligent.
If a lot of people dont do Stereo Mixdown and no feedback when their so called mastering,
is done. Just dont call it mastering then because its not.
All thouse crap producers working with mixers blablabla,
We dont need extra mixerboards for a Stereo mastered signal.
No we dont want your Multirack Mixing.
We dont need mics to FOH mixers.
I will show later a pic on Xite,
our own made Snare with big holes for the side mics.
Thats mixing down drums to Stereo before the actual feedback mixing on drums.
Bear

[Mr Arkadin]

I can't wait for the dénouement of this funny little joke you've got going. I'm expecting big things.

I'm a drunk, everyone else has cloth ears, and all those people who have been mastering for years (except Decca) are idiots because they don't use feedback.

It's been a fun ride, but you need to reveal yourself now as a joker, otherwise the joke's on you and your so-called mixes/non-mixes/whatever they are.

Mixers? We don't need no stinking mixers!

[guppy]

My own two cents...
http://clea-cane-corso.over-blog.com/ar ... 11721.html

[niceboy]

This is not your personal Marshall help.
Bear

Hm, wasn't you asking for help?

Anyway, that's what I thought already, you don't have a multitrack record at hand.
That makes it hard for us to judge your reverberation tricks, the offered mix isn't really suetable for that.

We just play and record .
No mixing needed.

well, that is exactly what we were discussing...

I rather have some sex,
than mixing for free.

one can't be good in both.

Why dont you tell everyone about your research in that area.
Noone cant be good at both.
Are you sure.
Thats nonsense

[hubird]

Thats mixing down drums to Stereo before the actual feedback mixing on drums.
Bear

why are you talking about 'feedback' if the rest of the world talks about reverb?
True, you have 'feedback channel', but that's a routing qualification, not an effect term.

[Fluxpod]

Cant stop laughing!
This
is
Comedy
Gold!

But Guys can we Decca tree this 40 year old reverb plug into the Feedback vallhalla???
Lets
do
this!

[Fluxpod]

Thats mixing down drums to Stereo before the actual feedback mixing on drums.
Bear

why are you talking about 'feedback' if the rest of the world talks about reverb?
True, you have 'feedback channel', but that's a routing qualification, not an effect term.

He is"feedbacking" so hard he has gone into Self Oszillation.

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[guppy]

The real difference with sex is that i've never found presets on my wife
and she never let any feedback on my performance...

[niceboy]

Cant stop laughing!
This
is
Comedy
Gold!

But Guys can we Decca tree this 40 year old reverb plug into the Feedback vallhalla???
Lets
do
this!

No you cant because noone is going to let you pretend that BBC,
is doing no feedback .
So good luck with your mixdown without mastering.
The mastering without feedback ,is not going to be allowed later.
Thats good because it was really bad pretending to do mastering but not doing it.
Thats froad.
Also you dont want sex anymore, so a lot of people will follow your example
This crap producer ideas is dead very soon.
Bear

[Mr Arkadin]

The mastering without feedback ,is not going to be allowed later.

What, are the feedback police going to be knocking on all our doors to check our mixing techniques?

Nobody expects the Feedback Inquisition!