SonicTimeworks P-100...

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:32 am

not just yours. I love my scope till death too.
And no financial collapse will force me to sell them.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:39 am

Eventually your computer will break and you won't find a new computer the cards will work in. Hard drives will not be available and you will be disappointed in the slow speed of it. That's why my focus is switching to hardware synthesizers now.

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:53 am

YEs you are right when it comes to synth. But, although i love hardware stuff, there are limits especially when it comes to mixing tools. It would be very expensive to get xxx comp and xxx Eqs for mixing. Computer-based effects allows many instances of one sole plugins ! I believe in hardware synth and preamp but 3rd party soniccore plugins are just amazing (and they are cheap compared to the native pro effects !) to me. Whatever happens to computers, i will keep my racked intel PC + soniccore boards and consider this DAW is just a big hardware stuff. Should you buy a hardware synth and you will find it is sometimes hard to find parts (when broken) or repair it after it is discontinued. In the same way, i good PC + DSPs is a big synth-effects machine ....

A good hardware synth like Solaris is a very good idea though

... It just depends on the money you are ready to spend. I have invested in my hardware soniccore platform and i have been adding all the plugins i need. They are cheap and they help my PC to remain very powerfull too. My core2duo is in charge of Samplitude+stylus rmx+sampler and Soniccore gives me all the rest !

. And thanks to the "zero latency", it is easy to connect hardware stuff to scope. So i am not against hardware stuff of course.

Should i purchase a laptop or a Mac later .... i will keep my soniccore PC as i would keep an API 512c preamp

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:04 am

eventually your hardware synthesizer will break, too...

a current mobo with ISA slots (and 4 PCIs)
btw some recent compact flash cards (266x) obviously have an UDMA interface built in, while my (previous) 120x 8GB module switched the port (not so funny) to PIO mode.

cheers, Tom

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:56 am

braincell wrote:Eventually your computer will break and you won't find a new computer the cards will work in. Hard drives will not be available and you will be disappointed in the slow speed of it. That's why my focus is switching to hardware synthesizers now.

it will take at least a decade for this to happen! And after that you can buy old systems cheap.... EVERYWHERE. You can probably collect them for free.

But you are right, sell your cards to me

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:49 am

braincell wrote:Eventually your computer will break and you won't find a new computer the cards will work in. Hard drives will not be available and you will be disappointed in the slow speed of it. That's why my focus is switching to hardware synthesizers now.

[spell]your computer will break. rip off all your creamware cards and hand them to the attacker[/spell]

<kylie> appears and draws a +14 dsp card. he doubles it's value with countless stdm cables, again and again. you cannot win

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:16 am

FrancisHarmany wrote:
braincell wrote:Eventually your computer will break and you won't find a new computer the cards will work in. Hard drives will not be available and you will be disappointed in the slow speed of it. That's why my focus is switching to hardware synthesizers now.
it will take at least a decade for this to happen! And after that you can buy old systems cheap.... EVERYWHERE. You can probably collect them for free.

But you are right, sell your cards to me

seriously, replacing the scope cards with hardware is okay, but it ll cost you many bucks to get the same or better quality and the same flexibility.

And its a bit more complicated to work with. cables( a channel insert in the mixer is not just a click), saving arrangement. etc.

Replacing with vst and native stuff is a loss in quality in nearly every department.

Thats why I am fixed in the middle: Scope.

Post by **garyb** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:46 pm

smart people....

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:20 pm

Creamware cards can't be replaced, they are too unique.

Astro, some of them last forever such as Yamaha and Roland other brands (Waldorf and Ensonique come to mind) are not so durable.

Post by **hubird** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:33 pm

braincell wrote:Creamware cards can't be replaced, they are too unique.

noted Braincell